?? doesn't it work to set it just below selfosc and put a step (gate?) impulse to the input? Theo From: <ElmacacoX at aol.com> > would having the filter on the verge of self osc. and give the vc rez a boost > with the EG or something, would that get it to wtart from zero? > > never really bothered me much, but I'll try it. > > Ed >