[sdiy] Combined CV/Gate on a cable

[Harry Bissell Jr]

Mini Jacks (1/8") exist with up to six or seven
connectors now (not custom)

They have several rings around the barrel... and some
commections of the flat surface at the base of the
shaft
like some scope probes do...

I forget who makes them... some taiwanese outfit iirc.

H^) harry


--- Tim Parkhurst <tparkhurst at siliconbandwidth.com>
wrote:
> I worked at Apple for a little while, and one of the
> things planned for the
> (then) new notebooks was a mini phone jack and plug
> with FOUR signals and a
> fifth for ground. This was to accommodate some extra
> AV I/O without having
> to add an extra connector. I suggested a mini-din
> plug arrangement (like an
> S video style), but this was quickly vetoed because
> it wasn't pretty enough.
> This custom jack was going to be hideously
> expensive, and I left before it
> was finalized so I don't know if it ever happened
> (this was a little over
> two years ago). Side note: Apple has all their I/O
> jacks custom made so that
> they all line up (take a look at an Apple notebook
> and you'll see that the
> centers of all the I/O connectors line up). So if
> this jack ever made it
> into production all you have to do is scavenge some,
> and then put CV and
> Gate for TWO Voices on one cable...
> 
> And yes, I'm being just plain silly. :) And trying
> to keep Magnus awake
> during his meetings. Best of luck Magnus, I've been
> in some meetings like
> that!
> 
> Tim Servo
> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -
> Albert Einstein
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harry Bissell Jr
> [mailto:harrybissell at prodigy.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:43 AM
> > To: mark verbos; synth diy
> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] Combined CV/Gate on a cable
> > 
> > the NEXT (next) step would be to use those cute
> > stereo jacks in the modules that allow the plug
> > to go halfway in...  I'd put the gate on the tip,
> > and the CV on the ring... so that in an envelope
> > generator you could plug halfway in to connect the
> > gate only... then all the way in would allow gate
> > and CV (which might set peak level, or be mixed
> with
> > the env. output to give kbd tracking etc...
> > 
> > ... so tough luck Magnus... your original standard
> is
> > now obsolete   :^P
> > 
> > H^) harry
> > 
> > 
> > --- mark verbos <mverbos at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > the next step would be to combine trigger and
> gate
> > > into one signal like
> > > Buchla. Then you have all 3 signals on one
> cable!
> > >
> > > mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim Parkhurst wrote:
> > >
> > > >It sounds like a nice idea AS LONG AS the
> circuitry
> > > is protected so that
> > > >using different cables (mono instead of stereo)
> or
> > > running a cable into
> > > >another manufacturers' synth doesn't
> accidentally
> > > fry something. Maybe a
> > > >nice strong 14V gate pulse applied to a VCO's
> CV
> > > input might cause some
> > > >problems. In other words, it might be okay as
> long
> > > as it is idiot proof.
> > > >Then again, it's not that much trouble to run
> two
> > > cables instead of one, is
> > > >it?
> > > >
> > > >Tim Servo
> > > >"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
> -
> > > Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Magnus Danielson
> [mailto:cfmd at bredband.net]
> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:33 AM
> > > >>To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> > > >>Subject: [sdiy] Combined CV/Gate on a cable
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi!
> > > >>
> > > >>Obviously being bored, I came up with an idea
> > > which I now leave to you to
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >shoot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>down or raise to the skies.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've noted that all the time we pull two
> different
> > > cables, one for CV and
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >one
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>for Gate. Why not combine those on a common
> > > cable/connector, so that you
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >plug
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>over them as a pair. It is only when you need
> to
> > > treat them separately
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >(modular
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>feeding to VCO/VCF and Envelope Generator(s)
> that
> > > this would be the wrong
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >thing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>to do, but on other places it would be a
> > > rationalisation.
> > > >>
> > > >>In addition, you need stereo-cables and
> > > connectors.
> > > >>
> > > >>I am considering CV on the tip and Gate on the
> > > ring.
> > > >>
> > > >>So, please... this is just an idea out ot the
> blue
> > > and no guarantees
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >attached.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Cheers,
> > > >>Magnus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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