[sdiy] digital delay, was ...

[phillip m gallo]

Harry,

Perhaps your being to severe here, the MXR and El. Mistress Flangers did
great things for bring the price and proliferation of noise gates into
general population.

It was also a common hack to wrap a NE572 around either the Phlanger and the
RS "Reverb" to bring the noise issue into the realm of the useable.

Using the MXR with an old ELKA electric "piano"(?) i recorded at 1/2 speed
(playing real slowly and an 8ve lower). Driving the noise up an 8ve sounded
pretty cool allowed some shelving eq to render the beast fairly quiet.

regards,
p



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From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
[mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl]On Behalf Of harrybissell
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:06 PM
To: eq927 at freenet.carleton.ca
Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [sdiy] digital delay, was ...


Ahh... alas

I remember going into my favorite music store (yes... it WAS in the
70's... iirc) and listening to the MXR flanger and thinking that no way
was I going to pay the $700 they wanted for it... for some anemic
flange effect ??? (I consider the end of Jimi Hendrix "Axis- Bold as Love
to be the definitive flange effect....) And that time I tried the utterly
awful E-H "Electric
Mistress" and said to myself.... "Self... who in their right mind would
pay ANY amount of money for this hissy noisy piece of sh!t ???" I don't
care WHAT 'big name' artistes supposedly use this thing.

Otoh I built a Rat Shack "Reverb" with the SAD1024 ....  it was a hissy
piece of sh!t as well... but cheap so who cares.... and the PAiA "Phlanger"
which was er... hissy, noisy and distorted to boot... but I sold it for
nearly
as much as it cost so I call it a wash....

I also remember being sorry I purchased a Tascam 4 channel reel to reel at
the advice of a friend, when I could have had a Delta Lab 1/2 second delay
for the same price. It was er... not hissy, noisy, distorted, or a piece of
sh!t and
would have seen way more hours than the Tascam.  I did get revenge on that
'friend'... I sold HIM the Tascam (at a loss) he bought the DBX noise
reduction
units (2) and sold the whole thing at an even greater loss... I bet it never
saw 20 hours
of use the whole time we had it...

Oh well, live and learn....  :^P

H^) harry  (bbd rant... I guess he's BACK :^)

eq927 at freenet.carleton.ca wrote:

> Aw, c'mon Harry - I've repaired around 80 to 100 BBD-based commercial fx
> units  over the past 10 years and in only ONE was the BBD fried...the
> rest of the parts were fried as well. Bad solder joints,
> broken-off connectors the usual culprits - and the occasional bad op
> amp. I've even seen BBD's quite happily survive reverse voltage. Now be
> nice to these little "bundles of diy-fun"... when BBD's were
> introduced in the early 70's, people were enjoying listening to
> those hissy cassette decks...and who knows... some of your favorite
> records might even have guitar processed through these little gems. To
> be fair, there are alternatives available nowadays to BBD's and hissy
> tapes.... but some still like doing it the old way.
> Regards, Mike
>
> >
> > well ihmo... most of them do not need execution, they commit suicide
> > (seppuku, hari-kiri...etc) rather easily all by themselves....   ;^P
> >

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