[sdiy] digital delay, was ...

[harrybissell]

Hi Phillip (et al) inline

phillip m gallo wrote:

> Harry,
>
> Perhaps your being to severe here

moi ???  ;^P  (hey thats what i'm here for : re bbds)

> , the MXR and El. Mistress Flangers did
> great things for bring the price and proliferation of noise gates into
> general population.

hmmm.... of course there are people who like the sound as well... I just
didn't.  My opinion and everybody's "got one" (mine is just bigger around...
must be all the wear and tear...)

>
>
> It was also a common hack to wrap a NE572 around either the Phlanger and the
> RS "Reverb" to bring the noise issue into the realm of the useable.

I rebuilt the Phlanger to improve the filters, and added a clock divider to get
lower
clock speeds and longer times...  The NE572 may have been beyond my skill at
that
time.

> Using the MXR with an old ELKA electric "piano"(?) i recorded at 1/2 speed
> (playing real slowly and an 8ve lower). Driving the noise up an 8ve sounded
> pretty cool allowed some shelving eq to render the beast fairly quiet.

now that IS an ingenious solution :^P

H^) harry

>
>
> regards,
> p
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> [mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl]On Behalf Of harrybissell
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:06 PM
> To: eq927 at freenet.carleton.ca
> Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] digital delay, was ...
>
> Ahh... alas
>
> I remember going into my favorite music store (yes... it WAS in the
> 70's... iirc) and listening to the MXR flanger and thinking that no way
> was I going to pay the $700 they wanted for it... for some anemic
> flange effect ??? (I consider the end of Jimi Hendrix "Axis- Bold as Love
> to be the definitive flange effect....) And that time I tried the utterly
> awful E-H "Electric
> Mistress" and said to myself.... "Self... who in their right mind would
> pay ANY amount of money for this hissy noisy piece of sh!t ???" I don't
> care WHAT 'big name' artistes supposedly use this thing.
>
> Otoh I built a Rat Shack "Reverb" with the SAD1024 ....  it was a hissy
> piece of sh!t as well... but cheap so who cares.... and the PAiA "Phlanger"
> which was er... hissy, noisy and distorted to boot... but I sold it for
> nearly
> as much as it cost so I call it a wash....
>
> I also remember being sorry I purchased a Tascam 4 channel reel to reel at
> the advice of a friend, when I could have had a Delta Lab 1/2 second delay
> for the same price. It was er... not hissy, noisy, distorted, or a piece of
> sh!t and
> would have seen way more hours than the Tascam.  I did get revenge on that
> 'friend'... I sold HIM the Tascam (at a loss) he bought the DBX noise
> reduction
> units (2) and sold the whole thing at an even greater loss... I bet it never
> saw 20 hours
> of use the whole time we had it...
>
> Oh well, live and learn....  :^P
>
> H^) harry  (bbd rant... I guess he's BACK :^)
>
> eq927 at freenet.carleton.ca wrote:
>
> > Aw, c'mon Harry - I've repaired around 80 to 100 BBD-based commercial fx
> > units  over the past 10 years and in only ONE was the BBD fried...the
> > rest of the parts were fried as well. Bad solder joints,
> > broken-off connectors the usual culprits - and the occasional bad op
> > amp. I've even seen BBD's quite happily survive reverse voltage. Now be
> > nice to these little "bundles of diy-fun"... when BBD's were
> > introduced in the early 70's, people were enjoying listening to
> > those hissy cassette decks...and who knows... some of your favorite
> > records might even have guitar processed through these little gems. To
> > be fair, there are alternatives available nowadays to BBD's and hissy
> > tapes.... but some still like doing it the old way.
> > Regards, Mike
> >
> > >
> > > well ihmo... most of them do not need execution, they commit suicide
> > > (seppuku, hari-kiri...etc) rather easily all by themselves....   ;^P
> > >
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