this is a pretty weird idea given that the 291e is a bandpass filter. FM on a bandpass filter, even a narrow one, doesn't have the same sideband characteristics etc., it's way messier. but very cool in its own right. On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Igor Medeiros <igormpc@gmail.com> wrote: > can you get higher frequencies using 291e in FM mode? > wikipedia about it: > > The 291e also supports frequency modulation of each input which makes it > possible to build both simple and complex FM operators. The fm circuit of > the 291e is different than that of the 259e and 261e and less prone to > aliasing. Combined with a 210e, the 291e supports the following FM algorithm > constructs: > > - *M -> C* This is the basic FM operator, where the ratio of M and C are > simple integers, usually N:1, but can be whatever you choose. The 291e can > provide three such operators. > - *(M1 + M2) -> C* A complex parallel FM operator (requires a 210e to sum > the modulation signals). The 291e can provide three such operators. > - *M1 -> M2 -> C* A complex series of FM operators. This requires two > 291e inputs. > - *(M1 + M2) -> M3 -> C* A more complex series of FM operators. This > requires two 291e inputs. > - *M1 -> (M2 + M3) -> C* A more complex series of FM operators. This > requires two 291e inputs. > - *M1 -> M2 -> M3 -> C* Requires all three 291e inputs. This basic > algorithm has numerous variations as M1, M2, and M3 can each be summed (or > not) with additional modulation inputs. > > Thus a 291e can be a powerful FM workstation independent of its filtering > abilities. > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Damon Menne <damon@mac.com> wrote: > >> i meant to comment on this but got lost in thinking about my selfish >> playing about! ;-] >> >> this is dead on and i agree 100% >> >> On Monday, September 29, 2008, at 01:21AM, "kkonkkrete" < >> kkonkkrete@yahoo.co.uk <kkonkkrete%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: >> > >> >Talking in Hz doesn't make sense because sensory JND's vary as a >> >function of the frequency. That's not a musical claim, it's just a >> >statement about the hair cells and basilar membrane in your cochlea. >> >So although +/-1 Hz is way above your frequency discrimination >> >threshold at 50 Hz, it is way below your frequency discrimination >> >threshold at 5000 Hz. Discussions of the range of human hearing >> >should be conducted in physiological (not physical) units. So in my >> >opinion, I don't think there is any meaningful sense in which 7kHz - >> >20kHz is 1/3 of the range of human hearing. >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
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Re: [200e] Re: 261e or 259e capable of higher frequencies?
2008-09-29 by ezra buchla
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