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281e OR outputs, 256e

2009-01-11 by cyaarsoil

wow! what a beautiful question!:
>How similar is the 281e OR's to the 256e?

To be able to answer this at all I have to make a lot of assumptions about what the two 
281e subsections that are feeding the maximum-selector-circuit are doing. Searching for 
what these assumptions could be is a really fun part of thinking about the question. 
another fun thing is that the question seems to proceed from observed behavior without 
too much hinderance form theory.

One situation that comes to mind has both subsections set to Decay mode and triggered 
by a common pulse. If their rise and fall times are set in different ways to the same overall 
envelope length, then looking at their OR output and turning the associated control could 
produce results indistinguishable from one of the subsection outputs manipulated with a 
256e.

makes me realize I always felt the OR sections' control range was too narrow. now I see 
one simple reason why: in some situations like the one described above the OR control 
range could be sensibly doubled by switching the inputs at the end of the present range. 
And I know there ought to be even more besides. yet more notes towards a 281F I guess

another situation where we find indistinguishable (or nearly so) behaviors in the 281e OR 
and the 256e is obtained by setting the leveled 281e subsection to Release mode and 
constraining the triggering pulse to last as long as the unleveled subsection's envelope 
time. Or we could simply trigger the Release mode subsection from the unleveled Decay 
mode output. In either case we see some kind of dead-band-type behavior at the OR 
output that could be found with a 256e

begs more: hysteresis-like possibilities for the 256e by using different transfers for rising 
vs falling inputs. ..extending this to general slope dependent look ups

another thing I love about the prompt: the impossibility of answering in the same spirit it 
was asked

Yasi Perera

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