yeah, quadrature introduces a 90deg phase shift in an envelope. nothing to do w/ audio. btw, it's pretty easy to make a digital APF with almost-linear arbitrary phase response. combine a 1sample feedforward and 1sample feedback loop: y = a*x + x_last - a*y_last phase delay = p = 2/freq * arctan( (1-a)/(1+a) *tan(freq/2) ), so a = sin((1-p) * freq/2) / sin((1+p) * freq / 2)) , so for freq small relative to sample rate, a = approx. (1-p)/(1+p) but all this doesn't have much to do with the 200e. experiments with digital filter architectures are probably best carried out on a computer. -eb On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, nicholas_kent <zaum@optonline.net> wrote: > Doesn't make much sense to me (But I don't own any modules). The 227e > is a quad channel device. In general no one defaults audio as far as I > know to 90 degree phase shifts to do quad. All you will wind up with > is more potential of cancellation in an acoustic space. And 90 > degrees for that matter probably requires a pair of allpass filters to > achieve. It's not something you can get without filters as far as I > know compared to just inverting the polatity for 180 degrees (though > filters could do that too). > > My guess is people are thinking along these lines because if you are > mixing quad audio you might very well want to hit your VCAs with 90 > degree quadrature of a *control voltage* in order to do "circular" pan > effects. Or perhaps someone just wants to identify the speakers in > numbers rather than ABCD if they represent a quad space > > > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, "mritenburg" > <mritenburg@...> wrote: > > > > I might be wrong, but I have always assumed that on the 227e, positions > > A, B, C, and D are 90 degrees out of phase from one another. So C is > > 180 degrees out of phase from A and D is 180 degrees out of phase from > > B. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, "Matt Carpenter" > <matfhew.carpenfer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I was just wondering if the 210e allows phase reversal of the audio > > > signal or if phase reversal is possible via other means, specifically > > > for the purposes of feedback/feedforward experimentation. > > > Thanks! > > > Matt > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [200e] Re: 210e -- audio signal phase reversal? nope. digital delay...
2008-04-28 by ezra buchla
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