200e

this is correct. most CV inputs on the 200e will saturate at +10v, unlike
old 200 series modules. negative voltages will usually do nothing.

On 5/8/07, Richard Lainhart <rlainhart@otownmedia.com> wrote:
>
>   All: I have a 200e system on order, for which I am waiting patiently,
> and plan to use my Continuum, created by Lippold Haken, as the main
> controller for the system. While waiting, I've been testing Lippold's
> new Continuum Voltage Convertor, or CVC, which is designed to convert
> the MIDI output from the Continuum to individual patchable control
> voltage outputs for use with analog synthesizers:
>
> http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/html/accessories/CVC.html
>
> Lippold has designed a few presets for several of the control voltage
> standards currently in use, including the common 1 volt/octave, 0-10+
> volts scheme and the Moog Voyager's peculiar .935 volt/octave
> standard. Lippold is very interested in providing a preset for the
> 200e, and has asked me about its control voltage standards. I don't
> have one, of course, and the 200e article on Wikipedia seems a little
> incomplete concerning control voltage ranges.
>
> From the article, it appears that the 200e's standard is 1.2
> v/octave, with a range of roughly 0-10+ volts. Can anyone tell me if
> that's correct - that the voltage range is positive only, and 0-10+
> only, or does the 200e support negative voltages or a wider control
> voltage range?
>
> Lippold and I thank you for any help you can provide.
> --
>
> Richard Lainhart
> O-Town Media
> rlainhart@otownmedia.com <rlainhart%40otownmedia.com>
> http://www.otownmedia.com
>  
>


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Thanks for the reply. I've forwarded it to Lippold; I'll let you all 
know how it goes.


>this is correct. most CV inputs on the 200e will saturate at +10v, unlike
>old 200 series modules. negative voltages will usually do nothing.

-- 


Richard Lainhart
O-Town Media
rlainhart@otownmedia.com
http://www.otownmedia.com

Another important point is that the 281 EG's need a +12 V gate to 
trigger. Does the Continuum CV box put out such gates? I think it only 
does +5 V, doesn't it? If so, you won't be able to trigger the EG's.
What I do to overcome this problem is to add voltages in my 210e (a 
little bit from my 255 to help the gate from my TKB, and voila!).

See if this helps....

Thanks for that addition. I believe the CVC is programmable in 
firmware for a wide range of values, so it should be doable, but I'll 
forward this info to Lippold to be sure.

Although, in fact, I may not actually use the trigger outputs, at 
least not with envelopes. I've been testing the CVC with a 
Synthesizers.com system, and have found that I get the most 
expressive control by bypassing envelopes entirely and mapping the Z 
axis (pressure) directly to volume in the VCAs. That way, I can 
manually alter the "envelopes" directly with finger pressure, varying 
the attack, sustain, and decay at will independently for each voice. 
It feels much more expressive that way, rather than being tied to a 
fixed envelope for any voice.



>Another important point is that the 281 EG's need a +12 V gate to
>trigger. Does the Continuum CV box put out such gates? I think it only
>does +5 V, doesn't it? If so, you won't be able to trigger the EG's.
>What I do to overcome this problem is to add voltages in my 210e (a
>little bit from my 255 to help the gate from my TKB, and voila!).
>
>See if this helps....

-- 


Richard Lainhart
O-Town Media
rlainhart@otownmedia.com
http://www.otownmedia.com

According to Lippold, the CVC outputs a maximum range of -9.8 to +10 
volts. Perhaps +10 will be enough to trigger the EGs; if not, my 
system will include a 256e that can bring the voltages up to the 
correct level (if I even use the trigger outs for EGs, as I 
mentioned.)



>Another important point is that the 281 EG's need a +12 V gate to
>trigger. Does the Continuum CV box put out such gates? I think it only
>does +5 V, doesn't it? If so, you won't be able to trigger the EG's.
>What I do to overcome this problem is to add voltages in my 210e (a
>little bit from my 255 to help the gate from my TKB, and voila!).

-- 


Richard Lainhart
O-Town Media
rlainhart@otownmedia.com
http://www.otownmedia.com

hm, this is a little misleading... both the 281e and the 281 produce pulses
a little shy of +12v but actually respond at considerably lower thresholds:
about +8.4v to trigger and +4 (or a little less) to sustain.

i'm looking at one of each right now just to make sure... interestingly, the
281 triggers at the sustain voltage when in sustain mode. behold: a bug,
methinks!

anyway, you will be fine with the continuum. again, basically nowhere in the
200e series will > +10v have any additional effect.

-eb

On 5/10/07, cuari7 <cuari7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>   Another important point is that the 281 EG's need a +12 V gate to
> trigger. Does the Continuum CV box put out such gates? I think it only
> does +5 V, doesn't it? If so, you won't be able to trigger the EG's.
> What I do to overcome this problem is to add voltages in my 210e (a
> little bit from my 255 to help the gate from my TKB, and voila!).
>
> See if this helps....
>
>  
>


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Thanks for clearing that up. Lippold will be happy....



>hm, this is a little misleading... both the 281e and the 281 produce pulses
>a little shy of +12v but actually respond at considerably lower thresholds:
>about +8.4v to trigger and +4 (or a little less) to sustain.
>
>i'm looking at one of each right now just to make sure... interestingly, the
>281 triggers at the sustain voltage when in sustain mode. behold: a bug,
>methinks!
>
>anyway, you will be fine with the continuum. again, basically nowhere in the
>200e series will > +10v have any additional effect.
>
>-eb
>
>On 5/10/07, cuari7 <<mailto:cuari7%40comcast.net>cuari7@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Another important point is that the 281 EG's need a +12 V gate to
>>  trigger. Does the Continuum CV box put out such gates? I think it only
>>  does +5 V, doesn't it? If so, you won't be able to trigger the EG's.
>>  What I do to overcome this problem is to add voltages in my 210e (a
>>  little bit from my 255 to help the gate from my TKB, and voila!).
>>
>  > See if this helps....

-- 


Richard Lainhart
O-Town Media
rlainhart@otownmedia.com
http://www.otownmedia.com

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