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Re: [200e] recording in surround

2008-02-13 by Richard Lainhart

I've been thinking about this too - I play and record in quad (to my  
MacBook running MOTU AudioDesk), and it really does sound better than  
stereo. But I'm not sure that encoding to a surround format is ideal,  
given that many listeners still don't have surround playback  
environments.



One thing I've considered is live air recording in the quad  
environment with a binaural HRTF mic, like this Neumann:



http://www.neumann.com/?lang=en&id=current_microphones&cid=ku100_description



The KU 100 is optimized so that playback of binaural content on stereo  
speakers provides an acceptable stereo field, but still records in  
full binaural for a 3-D listening experience through headphones. Given  
that many more people listen to music through headphones than surround  
speakers, it makes some sense to me to present quad music this way.  
And if you've never heard a true binaural recording, you owe it to  
yourself to download some and listen to them with good headphones -  
the realism and dimensionality of the auditory space is uncanny.



At any rate, I'm going to see if I can rent one and try it out.





> how do you record 4 channel audio from your 227/227e for playback
> outside of your studio? do any of you convert to dolby digital/dts?




Richard Lainhart
http://www.otownmedia.com
http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
http://www.airglowmusic.com






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Re: [200e] recording in surround

2008-02-13 by don hassler

The thing with DVD-A is that if your player has the
discreet outputs, you can assign however wish, no
compression, full bandwidth on 6 channels.
SACD is yet another direction, but Diskwelder Bronze
is so affordable!
--- Richard Lainhart <rlainhart@otownmedia.com> wrote:

> I've been thinking about this too - I play and
> record in quad (to my  
> MacBook running MOTU AudioDesk), and it really does
> sound better than  
> stereo. But I'm not sure that encoding to a surround
> format is ideal,  
> given that many listeners still don't have surround
> playback  
> environments.
> 
> 
> 
> One thing I've considered is live air recording in
> the quad  
> environment with a binaural HRTF mic, like this
> Neumann:
> 
> 
> 
>
http://www.neumann.com/?lang=en&id=current_microphones&cid=ku100_description
> 
> 
> 
> The KU 100 is optimized so that playback of binaural
> content on stereo  
> speakers provides an acceptable stereo field, but
> still records in  
> full binaural for a 3-D listening experience through
> headphones. Given  
> that many more people listen to music through
> headphones than surround  
> speakers, it makes some sense to me to present quad
> music this way.  
> And if you've never heard a true binaural recording,
> you owe it to  
> yourself to download some and listen to them with
> good headphones -  
> the realism and dimensionality of the auditory space
> is uncanny.
> 
> 
> 
> At any rate, I'm going to see if I can rent one and
> try it out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > how do you record 4 channel audio from your
> 227/227e for playback
> > outside of your studio? do any of you convert to
> dolby digital/dts?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Lainhart
> http://www.otownmedia.com
> http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
> http://www.airglowmusic.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



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Re: [200e] recording in surround

2008-02-13 by Brad Hawkins

> One thing I've considered is live air recording in the quad
> environment with a binaural HRTF mic, like this Neumann:


and then there's B-Format

http://www.ambisonic.net/

native B-Format seems easy enough.    compatible with mono and fully  
surround expandable from there.
http://www.radio.uqam.ca/ambisonic/native_b.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambisonics



OSS is easy, too.
http://www.josephson.com/tn5.html
not mono compatible but a really great stereo image is produced.   
quite similar to binaural  i can throw my diy jecklin rig up and be  
recording in about 4 mins flat

diy disc will cost you about $15.   just add omnis



BRAD

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