The Yamaha AN1x Synthesizer mailing list

Great stuff! Thanks for both of your comments. It sounds like you are
both agreed the an1x sounds more like older analogue synths than the
novation stuff.. Looks like I might need to buy a novation synth too
if I need that modern sounding bite!! But for now I am really enjoying
the an1x - particularly the keyboard, which being used to a relatively
cheap midi controller up until now, seems really amazingly good.

James

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Juan Pablo Cuervo
<audioprof2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> i disagree,
>  its not about good or bad...
>  its about personal taste,
>  you like green apples ? i dont, too sour for my taste
>  i like mustard!, you dont?
>  you like tb303? i sold mine becouse i was not 100% happy,
>  to me Yamaha PLG150-AN recreates/emulates the same tb-303 sound, or one i
> like even more, i only miss the slow knobs,
>  anyway, i like more the D-50 recreating a tb303, than the actual tb303
> sound,
>  personal taste,
>  simple as that....
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>  reading the access virus powercore manual its awesome, but when i listen
> the virus i dont like it, i only like 2 or 3 sounds in all the libraries!
> not crazy about it
>  its just personal taste
>  what does that mean?
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>  that i think the waveforms sound is more important than the filter sound,
> opposite to most others may think,
>  becouse a bad sounding filter can be recreated later in signal chain with
> another external filter, like audiodamage dr.device, bassementarts
> franticfilter, korg ms20fx, sonic core interpole, sonicprojects.ch opx,
> sonictimeworks eq1, etc... but oscillator waveforms cannot
>  thats why is so faouse the yamaha DX100/7/etc.. sound + mutonix mutator
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>  something like rebirth 338 v2.01 the tb303 + the PatternControlledFilter
>  sometimes it sounds like a whole new tb303
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>  just listen the waveforn diference, some are SAME PACHES on diferent
> synths:
>  Novation A/V/K waveforms:
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Club%204k%20Part%201%20-%20V-Station%20Soundset.mp3
>  vs.
>  Yamaha AN waveforms:
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20CosmicX%20-%20Cs6x+An1xBoard%20Soundset.mp3
>  vs.
>  Korg waveforms:
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Korg%20Legacy%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Roland jp8000 waveforms:
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20X-Plorations%20vol%202%20-%20JP80x0%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Roland Sh-101 waveforms:
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Analog%20Essentials%20-%20TC%20Powercore01%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Steinberg A1 waveforms & ring mod. "waldorf vsti made for steinberg nuendo"
> i like the chorus & ringmod a lot!
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20A1%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Oddity waveforms "oddity is a digital ver. of arp oddisey an arp oddisey is
> a fixed & smaller "portable" version of arp2600"
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Oddity%20Mini-Bass%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Waldorf Q/MicroQ/Komplexer VSTi waveforms
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Q%20Trilogy%20vol%202%20-%20Q-MicroQ%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
>  vs.
>  Access Virus Access Virus a/b/c/rack/PoCo/TDM/Indigo/TI
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> http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Incubation%20V3%20-%20Virus%20C%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3
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>  etc...
>  http://www.vengeance-sound.de/eng/indexFLASH.html
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>  vanguard, nexus, quasimidi polymorph, cakewalk raptor, zeta, etc..
>  are sampled based oscillators
>  but sampled based osc. sound also diferent
>  becouse how the samples were made , what AD was used, what wordclock, etc..
>  not all arp sounds the same, etc...not all korg ms20 sound the same, etc...
>  some record to tape first, some dont, what tape was used, etc...
>  becouse the Sample playback engine quality
>  .search &...listen tape808 samples and you will hear every VSTi/DXi/Rewire
> sampler sounds diferent with same samples!
>  etc...
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>  i disagree on novation not as good as yamaha, it is just diferent
>  A=K=V
>  B not= V
>  dont know about X or Xio
>  but Xio if it a has 32 waveforms it means its probably sample based Osc. =
> diferent than A/K/V sound
>  but probably similar to B with 10 note polyphony
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>  V-Station has 3x poly pure digital Oscillator waveform generator = it
> sounds diferent
>  B-Staton has 2x sampled Osc. mono waveform generator from Roland tb-303
> samples or similar sh-101 or juno-60 etc...,
>  make same patch in both, same everything it will sound diferent <--------
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>  V-Station cannot make B-Station sounds and backwards, waveforms are totally
> diferent
>  pure digital Square is not analog Square from roland or korg or oberheim
>  Saw its not Saw, etc...
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>  X-station has Multi-effects Processor
>  A total of 6 effects per channel can be applied simultaneously to the
> onboard synthesizer and/or audio input(s)
>  K has vocoder,
>  V has no audio input, no vocoder :(
>  dont know if Xio has that. <-------------------- = read the manual .pdf
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>  on the other hand.....
>  Yamaha Analog Physical Modeling has 2x digital pure digital waveform
> generator "VirtualAnalog VCOscillators"
>  with EDGE & velocity knobs that makes them sound not pure digital = it
> emulates the slew rate in some moog & roland oscillaor generator easy!, but
> also has its own unique sounds similar to prophet5
>  also yamaha has multi saw, that is a similar Yamaha version of roland super
> saw
>  or Roland Supersaw is a verson of Yamaha MultiSaw,
>  anyway,, its not about who made it first
>  its about personal taste
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>  to me Yamaha AN its a 2osc. poly mix/blend between Prophet5, Moog & Roland
>  with added features like ring modulator & feedback from arp2600 probably!
> or a moog or emu modular that has a ringmod.
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>  Novation V/K vengenace patches sound great but are not retro! will never
> sound retro becouse the oscillaors are too pure!
>  Korg Legacy AE2007 Polysix has a super nice retro square waveform, for my
> taste...
>  but the trend in global music , groups like justice, does not sound retro
> to me
>
>  from novation:
>  http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_control/xio/
>  Xio is the only Novation synthesiser to feature the X-Gator patch
> programmer. The X-Gator can be made to gate each patch to create unique
> 16-32 step rhythmic patterns for every onboard sound, all automatically
> synchronised to MIDI clock from a sequencer; just press and hold one key to
> groove along to a track with style. A display shows clearly the position and
> volume of each and every step
>
>  Specifications
>  Synthesizer
>  One part, 10-voice polyphonic
>  3 Oscillators, 17 Waveforms
>  2 LFOs, 32 Waveforms
>  Multimode resonant filter section with various filter options
>  Extensive modulation capabilities
>  Arpeggiator with latch
>  X-GATOR with latch
>  Direct streaming of synth into computer via USB
>
>  Keyboard
>  Keys: 25 or 49
>  Type: Semi-weighted
>  Velocity curves: 7
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>  Pitch and mod wheel mechanism
>  Pitch wheel lever: Rubberised - centre return spring loaded left to right
> motion
>  Mod/control lever: Rubberised - spring loaded front to back motion
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>  X/Y touchpad
>  Touchpad: 1 x touch sensitive 45x60mm
>  Parameters: 2 assignable in X direction
>  2 assignable in Y direction
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>  LCD display
>  LCD: 2 x 16 character silver
>  Blue LED backlit
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>  MIDI interfacing
>  MIDI: 1 MIDI Out
>  USB MIDI: 1 In/1 Out
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>  Audio Interfacing
>  Inputs: 1 XLR (with phantom power)
>  1 TS Jack
>  Outputs: 2 TS Jack (L/R)
>  1 stereo Headphones Jack
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>  Other interfacing
>  Data ports: 1 x USB 1.1
>  Sustain pedal: 1 x 1/4" Jack Input
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>  Controls
>  Rotary potentiometers: 11, 0-270° rotation
>  Rotary encoders: 1, 360° continuous DATA wheel
>  Buttons: 11 function switches
>  Group B switch
>  General operation: 4 Mode and Menu select buttons
>  Keyboard Octave Up and Down buttons
>  Synth Menus/Audio mode select button
>  Effect Select buttons (Synth Mode)
>  Template/Bank/Page Up/Down buttons
>  Line/Phones Volume pots
>
>  General
>  Battery operation: 6 x standard 'AA' Size
>  External power supply: Standard 'centre positive' 9V DC 600mA (Novation
> PSU6)
>  Size (25): 468 x 68 x 190 (mm) w x h x d
>  Size (49): 798 x 68 x 190 (mm) w x h x d
>  Weight (25/49): 1.4/1.6kg
>
>  System requirements
>  Operating system: Mac OSX 10.2.4 or greater or Windows XP (32- and 64- bit
> Vista compatible)
>  Computer spec: Apple G3/400 GHz or Pentium 600 MHz or better
>  Interfacing: USB 1.1 compatible USB connector
>
>  Templates (16 preset onboard, more available on Novation website)
>  1. Apple – Logic 7
>  2. Steinberg – Cubase SX3
>  3. Ableton – Live 5
>  4. Cakewalk – Sonar
>  5. Native Instruments - Absynth 3
>  6. Native Instruments - B4
>  7. Native Instruments - FM7
>  8. Native Instruments - Pro53
>  9. Gmedia - Oddity
>  10. Novation V-Station
>  11. Novation Bass Station
>  12. reFX – Vanguard
>  13. Linplug – Albino 2
>  14. Gmedia - Minimonsta
>  15. Spectrasonics - Atmosphere & Trilogy
>  16. User Template
>
>  Reviews
>  Music Tech review quotes
>  December 2006
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>  "The Xio is a combination of the ideas implemented in other Novation
> keyboards, and aims to fulfil multiple performing and recording needs with a
> minimum of cabling and fuss."
>
>  "If the interface and control features of the Xio are its brain, then the
> synth is its soul. Novation is renowned for authentic, gritty electronic
> sounds, and there's no shortage of them here."
>
>  "The Xio is an excellent synth in its own right, powerful and gritty enough
> to hold its own on stage, and crisp enough to stand out in the studio."
>
>  "For power and true portability at a reasonable price, the Xio is hard to
> beat."
>
>  Xcite+ Pack
>  Novation likes to set the standards, and their latest bundled software
> collection is no exception.
>
>  'Xcite+' comes on a DVD-ROM filled to the brim with royalty-free loops and
> samples alongside a host of powerful applications ideal for getting the new
> user started, or to expand the experienced user's creative toolbox.
>
>  The bundle includes:
>
>  Ableton Live Lite 6
>  Novation Bass Station
>  Waldorf PPG Wave Lite classic synth
>  Arturia Analog Factory SE plug-in
>  Waldorf's D-Pole Lite FX classic filter plug-in
>  FXpansion's powerful 'BFD Ultra lite' acoustic drum plug-in and a demo
> version of the 'Guru' sample player with library
>  Waldorf's 'Attack Lite' analogue drum module plug-in
>  'Mike the Drummer' A collection of 572 inspiring and original live drum
> loops
>  Free 3 months membership for 'i-dance'- Global XS Artist
>
>  Novation-class Synthesizer
>  10-voice mono-timbral engine with multi-effects processor and 200 massive
> sounds.
>
>  High Profile User Patches
>  60 cool sounds from internationally-renowned artists and producers across a
> variety of musical genres
>  24-bit Audio Interface
>  Ultra-low latency 2 In/2 Out audio interface for high quality recording and
> playback; includes 1 XLR input with phantom power
>  MIDI Controller
>  Unrivalled MIDI controller with a host of assignable controls, 16 onboard
> Templates and hybrid modes for simultaneous synthesizing/controlling.
>  2-D Controls
>  Fantastic 'Xpression' pad and pitch/mod joystick, both freely assignable in
> MIDI Controlling mode; allow 6 parameters to be tweaked at once!
>  USB/Battery Power
>  USB bus-powering is available, as well as optional battery (AA)/PSU
> operation, making the keyboard highly portable
>
>
>  nung242 <nung242@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I have a K-station, and an AN1x. The sound of the k-station is comparable
> to the Xio.
>  If you are looking for a good controller with direct computer connection
> and a decent VA sysnth built in, the Xio synth will do fine.
>  If you want a VA synth that sounds IMHO as good as a Nord, Virus A or a
> roland JP8000, the AN1x is the way to go. And is 4 octaves, great for live
> use.
>  Even if you are not a sound designer, there are so many banks available on
> the net, you will be able to find the sounds you need for your music. : )
>
>  lunadog93 <jamesmstone@gmail.com> wrote: Hi there,
>
>  Has anyone tried the Novation xiosynth? How does it compare to the an1x?
>
>  James
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