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Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sync issue

2001-11-06 by bruce w.

much easier for *you* to put out a click track to your drummer and let HIM sync to you.

But let me tell you, as a drummer, you might meet some inital resistance from him. :) Actually, it's not uncommon for drummers to use them onstage -- particularly when there's sequences involved.

John Robinson prefers a cowbell, I always liked a tamborine.

here's some info on click tracks:
http://www.schirmer.com/balletmec/09.html

bruce w
orlando, fl

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Wahler 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sync issue


  Jake,

  >I have been a member of the list for sometime now but normally just 
  >lurk.  I now have a question even though it is a bit off topic of the 
  >list.  I was woundering if it would be possible to midi sync all my gear 
  >with a live drummer.  Either off the hi-hat or something similar.  Mostly 
  >want to be able to sync drum machine and sequencer with the live drummer.

  A company called Kahler used to make an item called the "Human Clock" in 
  the late 80's that does exactly what you want.  It takes a 1/4" signal in, 
  averages it into a tempo, and then sends that tempo out as a MIDI clock.  I 
  don't know how hard they are to find these days.

  Alternatively, many sequencers have such a function; in Cakewalk, it's 
  called "tap tempo."  I know you can use it when recording; I'm not sure 
  about the live aspects.

  Now, the down side:  These devices/methods work wonderfully/terribly, 
  depending on the music's (and drummer's) style.  In order for the 
  synchronization to work, the drummer has to put out an evenly-spaced series 
  of pulses to create a tempo average.  What the computer/device does is keep 
  a running average of the time signature of the last say, 16 hits, and 
  figures that this sample is a good representation of the tempo as a 
  whole.  If your drummer has been called a "metronome" as a compliment, and 
  plays the hi-hat or bass drum on every beat, you're going to like the 
  results; if your drummer plays all over the map, but always averages out to 
  the right beat, it's not going to work as well.  Also, certain musical 
  styles -- reggae, for example -- push and tug on the beat throughout the 
  song, and this can upset the system, too.

  I hope this helps.


  Regards,

  -BW

  --
  Bruce Wahler
  Design Consultant
  Ashby SolutionsT   www.ashbysolutions.com
  CloneWheel Support Group and HiNote moderator
  978.386.7389  voice  978.964.0547 fax
  bruce@...


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