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Re: a challenge... hmm... still no luck

2000-07-22 by keltik@uswest.net

Thanks for the response Gary, but I'm still missing something... 
please pardon my ignorance (dim-wittedness?). 

I had tried all sorts of configurations when I first read the note at 
the bottom of your CW routing diagrams page, but I could never get 
any config to work but for exactly following the last schematic (dual 
mode w/ record). Tried with Hwmdcabl.exe #1 & 2 but no #3, as the 
note suggests, but that routing fails on my system, as does the one 
you seem to suggest in your reply to this thread (no Hwmdcabl.exe 
instances at all, unless I'm misinterpreting)... so I'm at a loss as 
for that matter. I did actually get the PLG to sound through AN1xEdit 
using the 'overly-complex' (grin) routing config, but getting CW to 
control it is another problem entirely.

I could not find an 'enable midi thru' option in CW9's options-
>global panel or anywhere else in the program. I did find and 
enable 'echo system exclusive', but that on its own seemed to have no 
effect.

Also, have you, or anyone else, any suggestions as to how to 
configure Cakewalk to send messages to the PLG? Do I need to find an 
instrument definition for the card? How should the 
source/port/channel settings work in this situation? 

Again, please excuse my ignorance. The lack of information on the 
theory and practical application of MIDI on the internet astounds me 
(or at least my inability to find it (in a comprehensible form (for 
Dummies))). ;)

I thank you so much for your guidance and patience. You are a model 
human being and a genius to boot! ;)

Matt




--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Gary Gregson" <gary@y...> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Glad to see you got connected to the list!
> 
> First of all I'd like to point out that your XGedit/CW9/SW1K 
configuration
> is actually over complicated. The setup you are using is only 
required for
> Cakewalk versions below 8.03 (as they did not thru sysex 
correctly). For CW9
> you can dispense with the Hwmdcable.exe programs and just use
> 
> XGedit:
> In=NONE
> OutA=LB1
> OutB=LB2
> 
> CW9:
> In=LB1, LB2, SW100 MIDI IN
> Out-SW1000#1, SW1000#2, SW1000 MIDI OUT
> 
> In this case all data will be Thru'd via Cakewalk (so make sure you 
have
> enabled MIDI thru and the Echo System Exclusive functions under the 
CW
> global options).
> 
> To add An1xEdit for control of the PLG150AN to this setup. First 
ensure
> An1xEdit is operating in PLG150AN mode (place a check in the Setup 
menu next
> to PLG150AN), then simply set
> AN1xEdit:
> In=NONE
> Out=LB1
> 
> Again the An1xEdit data will be thu'd via CW9.
> 
> [Users of Cubase VST should be aware that a similar setup will not
> work....since VST is incapable of thruing sysex data larger than 
512 bytes
> according to my tests. Hence the big AN sysex messages do not make 
it!! In
> this situation VST users should use the multiclient nature of the 
SW1K
> drivers and just set:
> AN1xEdit:
> In=NONE
> Out= SW1000#1
> Note however that this means AN data will not be going via 
VST...hence
> cannot be recorded in realtime.]
> 
> When working with the AN board on a host such as SW1K it is 
important to
> ensure data edits are transmitted in the correct order. In 
particular, the
> PLG150AN replaces one of the hosts XG parts. Therefore if you 
refresh your
> setup from XGedit, you may find that the AN board no longer sounds 
(i.e. the
> host reverts back to the native XG part). Hence you should follow 
any XG
> refresh by a refresh synth from the AN1xEdit Utils menu. This will 
ensure
> the AN board is correctly reconfigured.
> 
> A similar situation also exists if you decide to embed 
configuration data in
> your final MIDI file/song. i.e. always place the XG setup data 
first,
> followed by the AN setup data.
> 
> For more information read the An1xEidit Help file Introduction 
sections.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gary
> Email:
> 	gary@y...
> 	http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > keltik@u... wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > While I love to write music, I'm fairly new to MIDI, and less
> > > technically inclined than most, so you'll have to bear with 
me :).
> > > Wanting to expand my current setup, I recently purchased a 
PLG150AN
> > > and downloaded Gary's AN1xEdit to control it. Unfortunately, I
> > > haven't the slightest idea how to get the thing working. I'm
> > > currently running Cakewalk 9 on my PC (450MHz k6-3, 192M pc100, 
23G
> > > HD's), and I'm getting my sounds and effects from an SW1000XG 
and
> > > editing those sounds and effects through XGedit, with Hubi's 
tying it
> > > all together. I would be MOST apprectiative if anyone could 
offer up
> > > a short guide for integrating the PLG and AN1xEdit into my 
setup, as
> > > well as possibly suggesting a few tips on how to get started 
editing
> > > sounds on the PLG. My current setup is as follows:
> > >
> > >   ______
> > >  |      |---LB1---Hwmdcabl-1---LB3---Hwmdcabl-2---SW1000XG #1
> > >  |XGedit|    |                  |
> > >  |______|---]|[--------+        |
> > >           ___|____     |        |
> > >          |        |---]|[-------+
> > >          |Cakewalk|    |
> > >  midi in-|________|---LB4------------Hwmdcabl-3---SW1000XG #2
> > >
> > > *Nasty ASCII version of Gary's nicely rendered schematic at
> > > www.yme.co.uk/yme
> > >
> > > I will be eternally grateful to anyone who can come up with a
> > > solution to my little dilemma. Thank you and goodnight!
> > >
> > > Matt

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