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Hi there.  I am new!  I have had an AN1 for some years and I am finally having the time to use it properly.

I have created my own noise, a bass noise using both VCOs and based on the default Type 2 noise the system offers you when you start creating.

I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2, and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite appearing as though it was doing it.

So I manually copied it.

My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds, and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without morphing between them.

I think that there is a setting wrong somewhere that is stopping it from behaving in the way that I expect: does anyone know what that setting is?

I have changed the layer mode from single, to dual, to unison etc etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Many thanks

Gwyn




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Hello Gwyn!
To copy data from another voice to a scene:

    * hold the "scene1" or "scene2" switch and enter the number of the
      voice whose data you want to copy. The screen will display this
      number flashing  together with "sceneX load?"
    * Press "yes" (or "no" if it's a mistake!), that's all.

To swap both scenes (ie sound data are exchanged between "scene1" and 
"scene2") :

    * hold the "store" switch and press both "scene1" and "scene2"
      switches. The screen will display "Scene 1<->2 Swap" with "sure?"
      flashing
    * As previously press "yes" or "no".

To "morph" between both scenes  the continuous controller (modulation 
wheel = MW) must be assigned to "scene control" ( Scene Ctrl on the 
screen) and not "scene select" (Scene Sel) . In the last case the mod 
wheel only toggles between the 2 scenes like the switches as you 
mentionned, in the first it is defined as a continuous controller 
allowing to mix both sounds depending on its position. To check which 
controller is assigned (if any..) to the Scene Control (i.e. "morphing" 
or "mix") hold both scene switches, it will be displayed on the screen.
N.B1.: this "morphing" function can be assigned to any continuous 
controller, not only the mod wheel, for example a foot controller, with 
a pot inside like an expression pedal, not a simple switch as the 
sustain pedal. However this simple pedal switch can be assigned to 
something else than the sustain, assuming this parameter does require 
only a 1 or 0 value.
N.B.2: The "sustain" pedal can be any fitted with a "normally closed" 
type momentary switch and a mono jack : you can find it easily (music or 
electronics stores) and cheaper than the Yamaha "FC something" model....
NB3: Caution! The continuous foot controllers are a little bit more 
complex, if they will fit or not depends on the pot ohmic value and the 
jack wiring !
Xmas greetings
J.F.




Gwyn Evans a �crit :

>Hi there.  I am new!  I have had an AN1 for some years and I am finally having the time to use it properly.
>
>I have created my own noise, a bass noise using both VCOs and based on the default Type 2 noise the system offers you when you start creating.
>
>I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2, and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite appearing as though it was doing it.
>
>So I manually copied it.
>
>My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds, and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without morphing between them.
>
>I think that there is a setting wrong somewhere that is stopping it from behaving in the way that I expect: does anyone know what that setting is?
>
>I have changed the layer mode from single, to dual, to unison etc etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.
>
>Any advice would be gratefully received.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Gwyn
>
>
>
>
>      ___________________________________________________________
>Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it
>now.
>http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ 
>
>  
>

Hi Jeff: thanks for your comprehensive reply.

I worked around this, as mentioned in both mine and your other emails
yesterday, but I wanted to comment that I do not have the option in
Utility Setup Device or Ctrl No to select "Scene Ctrl".  Only
"SceneSel" is available in both menus in the relevant place, it being
number 3 in the list of 90-something controls. Number 4 is blank, as
are several others in the list.

It may be my OS version or something (it displaying "TEST MODE V 1.02"
when I start up and hold down 0 + and - together.

Secondly, the copying of the scene did not work even when I followed
to method you suggest below!  I *can* swap, and I *can* copy from
other voices, I just cannot copy scene 1 to scene 2.

Many thanks for your help,
Gwyn

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Gwyn!
> To copy data from another voice to a scene:
> 
>     * hold the "scene1" or "scene2" switch and enter the number of the
>       voice whose data you want to copy. The screen will display this
>       number flashing  together with "sceneX load?"
>     * Press "yes" (or "no" if it's a mistake!), that's all.
> 
> To swap both scenes (ie sound data are exchanged between "scene1" and 
> "scene2") :
> 
>     * hold the "store" switch and press both "scene1" and "scene2"
>       switches. The screen will display "Scene 1<->2 Swap" with "sure?"
>       flashing
>     * As previously press "yes" or "no".
> 
> To "morph" between both scenes  the continuous controller (modulation 
> wheel = MW) must be assigned to "scene control" ( Scene Ctrl on the 
> screen) and not "scene select" (Scene Sel) . In the last case the mod 
> wheel only toggles between the 2 scenes like the switches as you 
> mentionned, in the first it is defined as a continuous controller 
> allowing to mix both sounds depending on its position. To check which 
> controller is assigned (if any..) to the Scene Control (i.e. "morphing" 
> or "mix") hold both scene switches, it will be displayed on the screen.
> N.B1.: this "morphing" function can be assigned to any continuous 
> controller, not only the mod wheel, for example a foot controller, with 
> a pot inside like an expression pedal, not a simple switch as the 
> sustain pedal. However this simple pedal switch can be assigned to 
> something else than the sustain, assuming this parameter does require 
> only a 1 or 0 value.
> N.B.2: The "sustain" pedal can be any fitted with a "normally closed" 
> type momentary switch and a mono jack : you can find it easily
(music or 
> electronics stores) and cheaper than the Yamaha "FC something" model....
> NB3: Caution! The continuous foot controllers are a little bit more 
> complex, if they will fit or not depends on the pot ohmic value and the 
> jack wiring !
> Xmas greetings
> J.F.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gwyn Evans a écrit :
> 
> >Hi there.  I am new!  I have had an AN1 for some years and I am
finally having the time to use it properly.
> >
> >I have created my own noise, a bass noise using both VCOs and based
on the default Type 2 noise the system offers you when you start creating.
> >
> >I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could
differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in
that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2,
and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite
appearing as though it was doing it.
> >
> >So I manually copied it.
> >
> >My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds,
and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable
Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without
morphing between them.
> >
> >I think that there is a setting wrong somewhere that is stopping it
from behaving in the way that I expect: does anyone know what that
setting is?
> >
> >I have changed the layer mode from single, to dual, to unison etc
etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.
> >
> >Any advice would be gratefully received.
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >Gwyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      ___________________________________________________________
> >Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the
answer. Try it

> >now.
> >http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ 
> >
> >  
> >
>

Hello!
do you have the (awful) user manual?
I'll take a look at my own synth for your OS problem (mine is maybe 
different...) and to see how i managed to morph between 2 scenes. 
Because i did it: for organ sounds it works well because both sounds 
have the same pitch ; i've tried to morph 2 different typical synth 
sounds (VCOs sync'ed, filter sweep and so on) and, one being 1 octave 
lower just as you've tried to do, i got the same results than you, the 
pitch changes when you move the mod wheel.
Be patient: these days i'm more in the kitchen and parties (i'm french, 
nobody's perfect) than behind my keyboards, and my motorcycle needs some 
brake pads change!
Happy new year to you all!
J.F.


gwynforevans a \ufffdcrit :

>Hi Jeff: thanks for your comprehensive reply.
>
>I worked around this, as mentioned in both mine and your other emails
>yesterday, but I wanted to comment that I do not have the option in
>Utility Setup Device or Ctrl No to select "Scene Ctrl".  Only
>"SceneSel" is available in both menus in the relevant place, it being
>number 3 in the list of 90-something controls. Number 4 is blank, as
>are several others in the list.
>
>It may be my OS version or something (it displaying "TEST MODE V 1.02"
>when I start up and hold down 0 + and - together.
>
>Secondly, the copying of the scene did not work even when I followed
>to method you suggest below!  I *can* swap, and I *can* copy from
>other voices, I just cannot copy scene 1 to scene 2.
>
>Many thanks for your help,
>Gwyn
>
>--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello Gwyn!
>>To copy data from another voice to a scene:
>>
>>    * hold the "scene1" or "scene2" switch and enter the number of the
>>      voice whose data you want to copy. The screen will display this
>>      number flashing  together with "sceneX load?"
>>    * Press "yes" (or "no" if it's a mistake!), that's all.
>>
>>To swap both scenes (ie sound data are exchanged between "scene1" and 
>>"scene2") :
>>
>>    * hold the "store" switch and press both "scene1" and "scene2"
>>      switches. The screen will display "Scene 1<->2 Swap" with "sure?"
>>      flashing
>>    * As previously press "yes" or "no".
>>
>>To "morph" between both scenes  the continuous controller (modulation 
>>wheel = MW) must be assigned to "scene control" ( Scene Ctrl on the 
>>screen) and not "scene select" (Scene Sel) . In the last case the mod 
>>wheel only toggles between the 2 scenes like the switches as you 
>>mentionned, in the first it is defined as a continuous controller 
>>allowing to mix both sounds depending on its position. To check which 
>>controller is assigned (if any..) to the Scene Control (i.e. "morphing" 
>>or "mix") hold both scene switches, it will be displayed on the screen.
>>N.B1.: this "morphing" function can be assigned to any continuous 
>>controller, not only the mod wheel, for example a foot controller, with 
>>a pot inside like an expression pedal, not a simple switch as the 
>>sustain pedal. However this simple pedal switch can be assigned to 
>>something else than the sustain, assuming this parameter does require 
>>only a 1 or 0 value.
>>N.B.2: The "sustain" pedal can be any fitted with a "normally closed" 
>>type momentary switch and a mono jack : you can find it easily
>>    
>>
>(music or 
>  
>
>>electronics stores) and cheaper than the Yamaha "FC something" model....
>>NB3: Caution! The continuous foot controllers are a little bit more 
>>complex, if they will fit or not depends on the pot ohmic value and the 
>>jack wiring !
>>Xmas greetings
>>J.F.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Gwyn Evans a écrit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi there.  I am new!  I have had an AN1 for some years and I am
>>>      
>>>
>finally having the time to use it properly.
>  
>
>>>I have created my own noise, a bass noise using both VCOs and based
>>>      
>>>
>on the default Type 2 noise the system offers you when you start creating.
>  
>
>>>I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could
>>>      
>>>
>differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in
>that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2,
>and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite
>appearing as though it was doing it.
>  
>
>>>So I manually copied it.
>>>
>>>My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds,
>>>      
>>>
>and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable
>Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without
>morphing between them.
>  
>
>>>I think that there is a setting wrong somewhere that is stopping it
>>>      
>>>
>from behaving in the way that I expect: does anyone know what that
>setting is?
>  
>
>>>I have changed the layer mode from single, to dual, to unison etc
>>>      
>>>
>etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.
>  
>
>>>Any advice would be gratefully received.
>>>
>>>Many thanks
>>>
>>>Gwyn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ___________________________________________________________
>>>Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the
>>>      
>>>
>answer. Try it
>  
>
>>>now.
>>>http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>
>  
>

Hmm... I don't find the manual awful at all.  It's just another technical
journal trying to describe how to create musical sounds.  Tough task.

To get scenes to morph without pitch interruption, you've gotta match the
oscillator octaves.  Yep, the manual doesn't state this.  But it is a fact
and now you know it.

Another thing that can sound ugly when trying to morph is when the ring
modulator is used.  Nasty unmusical things can happen.  But if you're trying
to make an effect rather than a playable tone, this could be a good thing.

Ed Edwards
http://www.ezekielswheel.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jeff
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:17 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] Re: Problem morphing - thanks Jeff + response
> 
> Hello!
> do you have the (awful) user manual?
> I'll take a look at my own synth for your OS problem (mine is maybe
> different...) and to see how i managed to morph between 2 scenes.
> Because i did it: for organ sounds it works well because both sounds
> have the same pitch ; i've tried to morph 2 different typical synth
> sounds (VCOs sync'ed, filter sweep and so on) and, one being 1 octave
> lower just as you've tried to do, i got the same results than you, the
> pitch changes when you move the mod wheel.
> Be patient: these days i'm more in the kitchen and parties (i'm french,
> nobody's perfect) than behind my keyboards, and my motorcycle needs some
> brake pads change!
> Happy new year to you all!
> J.F.
> 
> 
> gwynforevans a écrit :
> 
> >Hi Jeff: thanks for your comprehensive reply.
> >
> >I worked around this, as mentioned in both mine and your other emails
> >yesterday, but I wanted to comment that I do not have the option in
> >Utility Setup Device or Ctrl No to select "Scene Ctrl".  Only
> >"SceneSel" is available in both menus in the relevant place, it being
> >number 3 in the list of 90-something controls. Number 4 is blank, as
> >are several others in the list.
> >
> >It may be my OS version or something (it displaying "TEST MODE V 1.02"
> >when I start up and hold down 0 + and - together.
> >
> >Secondly, the copying of the scene did not work even when I followed
> >to method you suggest below!  I *can* swap, and I *can* copy from
> >other voices, I just cannot copy scene 1 to scene 2.
> >
> >Many thanks for your help,
> >Gwyn
> >
> >--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hello Gwyn!
> >>To copy data from another voice to a scene:
> >>
> >>    * hold the "scene1" or "scene2" switch and enter the number of the
> >>      voice whose data you want to copy. The screen will display this
> >>      number flashing  together with "sceneX load?"
> >>    * Press "yes" (or "no" if it's a mistake!), that's all.
> >>
> >>To swap both scenes (ie sound data are exchanged between "scene1" and
> >>"scene2") :
> >>
> >>    * hold the "store" switch and press both "scene1" and "scene2"
> >>      switches. The screen will display "Scene 1<->2 Swap" with "sure?"
> >>      flashing
> >>    * As previously press "yes" or "no".
> >>
> >>To "morph" between both scenes  the continuous controller (modulation
> >>wheel = MW) must be assigned to "scene control" ( Scene Ctrl on the
> >>screen) and not "scene select" (Scene Sel) . In the last case the mod
> >>wheel only toggles between the 2 scenes like the switches as you
> >>mentionned, in the first it is defined as a continuous controller
> >>allowing to mix both sounds depending on its position. To check which
> >>controller is assigned (if any..) to the Scene Control (i.e. "morphing"
> >>or "mix") hold both scene switches, it will be displayed on the screen.
> >>N.B1.: this "morphing" function can be assigned to any continuous
> >>controller, not only the mod wheel, for example a foot controller, with
> >>a pot inside like an expression pedal, not a simple switch as the
> >>sustain pedal. However this simple pedal switch can be assigned to
> >>something else than the sustain, assuming this parameter does require
> >>only a 1 or 0 value.
> >>N.B.2: The "sustain" pedal can be any fitted with a "normally closed"
> >>type momentary switch and a mono jack : you can find it easily
> >>
> >>
> >(music or
> >
> >
> >>electronics stores) and cheaper than the Yamaha "FC something" model....
> >>NB3: Caution! The continuous foot controllers are a little bit more
> >>complex, if they will fit or not depends on the pot ohmic value and the
> >>jack wiring !
> >>Xmas greetings
> >>J.F.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Gwyn Evans a écrit :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi there.  I am new!  I have had an AN1 for some years and I am
> >>>
> >>>
> >finally having the time to use it properly.
> >
> >
> >>>I have created my own noise, a bass noise using both VCOs and based
> >>>
> >>>
> >on the default Type 2 noise the system offers you when you start
creating.

> >
> >
> >>>I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could
> >>>
> >>>
> >differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in
> >that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2,
> >and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite
> >appearing as though it was doing it.
> >
> >
> >>>So I manually copied it.
> >>>
> >>>My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds,
> >>>
> >>>
> >and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable
> >Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without
> >morphing between them.
> >
> >
> >>>I think that there is a setting wrong somewhere that is stopping it
> >>>
> >>>
> >from behaving in the way that I expect: does anyone know what that
> >setting is?
> >
> >
> >>>I have changed the layer mode from single, to dual, to unison etc
> >>>
> >>>
> >etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.
> >
> >
> >>>Any advice would be gratefully received.
> >>>
> >>>Many thanks
> >>>
> >>>Gwyn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     ___________________________________________________________
> >>>Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the
> >>>
> >>>
> >answer. Try it
> >
> >
> >>>now.
> >>>http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Hi Ed !
the manual is not pedagogical, too difficult for the absolute beginner 
and sometimes lacking of informations for the advanced user. For the 
first the "AN1x stater guide" is a must, for the latter a reference 
manual with all the sysex codes, tech specs and so on would be useful. 
But maybe these were distributed with the brand new synth, now they're 
quite all second hand , often sold without any docs. And there is no 
logic in the order of the items, you must jump from page 31 to page 95 
then back to 42... I've downloaded the "starter guide" and a refrence 
manual, this done i'm feeling better...
The Casio CZ series or Kawa\ufffd manuals (i have both) are 10 times more 
"user friendly" and nevertheless exhaustive.
Season's greetings!
J.F.

Ed Edwards a \ufffdcrit :

>Hmm... I don't find the manual awful at all.  It's just another technical
>journal trying to describe how to create musical sounds.  Tough task.
>
>To get scenes to morph without pitch interruption, you've gotta match the
>oscillator octaves.  Yep, the manual doesn't state this.  But it is a fact
>and now you know it.
>
>Another thing that can sound ugly when trying to morph is when the ring
>modulator is used.  Nasty unmusical things can happen.  But if you're trying
>to make an effect rather than a playable tone, this could be a good thing.
>
>Ed Edwards
>http://www.ezekielswheel.com
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com] On
>>    
>>
>Behalf
>  
>
>>Of Jeff
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:17 AM
>>To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [AN1x] Re: Problem morphing - thanks Jeff + response
>>
>>Hello!
>>do you have the (awful) user manual?
>>I'll take a look at my own synth for your OS problem (mine is maybe
>>different...) and to see how i managed to morph between 2 scenes.
>>Because i did it: for organ sounds it works well because both sounds
>>have the same pitch ; i've tried to morph 2 different typical synth
>>sounds (VCOs sync'ed, filter sweep and so on) and, one being 1 octave
>>lower just as you've tried to do, i got the same results than you, the
>>pitch changes when you move the mod wheel.
>>Be patient: these days i'm more in the kitchen and parties (i'm french,
>>nobody's perfect) than behind my keyboards, and my motorcycle needs some
>>brake pads change!
>>Happy new year to you all!
>>J.F.
>>
>>
>>gwynforevans a \ufffdcrit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Jeff: thanks for your comprehensive reply.
>>>
>>>I worked around this, as mentioned in both mine and your other emails
>>>yesterday, but I wanted to comment that I do not have the option in
>>>Utility Setup Device or Ctrl No to select "Scene Ctrl".  Only
>>>"SceneSel" is available in both menus in the relevant place, it being
>>>number 3 in the list of 90-something controls. Number 4 is blank, as
>>>are several others in the list.
>>>
>>>It may be my OS version or something (it displaying "TEST MODE V 1.02"
>>>when I start up and hold down 0 + and - together.
>>>
>>>Secondly, the copying of the scene did not work even when I followed
>>>to method you suggest below!  I *can* swap, and I *can* copy from
>>>other voices, I just cannot copy scene 1 to scene 2.
>>>
>>>Many thanks for your help,
>>>Gwyn
>>>
>>>--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hello Gwyn!
>>>>To copy data from another voice to a scene:
>>>>
>>>>   * hold the "scene1" or "scene2" switch and enter the number of the
>>>>     voice whose data you want to copy. The screen will display this
>>>>     number flashing  together with "sceneX load?"
>>>>   * Press "yes" (or "no" if it's a mistake!), that's all.
>>>>
>>>>To swap both scenes (ie sound data are exchanged between "scene1" and
>>>>"scene2") :
>>>>
>>>>   * hold the "store" switch and press both "scene1" and "scene2"
>>>>     switches. The screen will display "Scene 1<->2 Swap" with "sure?"
>>>>     flashing
>>>>   * As previously press "yes" or "no".
>>>>
>>>>To "morph" between both scenes  the continuous controller (modulation
>>>>wheel = MW) must be assigned to "scene control" ( Scene Ctrl on the
>>>>screen) and not "scene select" (Scene Sel) . In the last case the mod
>>>>wheel only toggles between the 2 scenes like the switches as you
>>>>mentionned, in the first it is defined as a continuous controller
>>>>allowing to mix both sounds depending on its position. To check which
>>>>controller is assigned (if any..) to the Scene Control (i.e. "morphing"
>>>>or "mix") hold both scene switches, it will be displayed on the screen.
>>>>N.B1.: this "morphing" function can be assigned to any continuous
>>>>controller, not only the mod wheel, for example a foot controller, with
>>>>a pot inside like an expression pedal, not a simple switch as the
>>>>sustain pedal. However this simple pedal switch can be assigned to
>>>>something else than the sustain, assuming this parameter does require
>>>>only a 1 or 0 value.
>>>>N.B.2: The "sustain" pedal can be any fitted with a "normally closed"
>>>>type momentary switch and a mono jack : you can find it easily
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>(music or
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>electronics stores) and cheaper than the Yamaha "FC something" model....
>>>>NB3: Caution! The continuous foot controllers are a little bit more
>>>>complex, if they will fit or not depends on the pot ohmic value and the
>>>>jack wiring !
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>>>>>I wanted quickly to copy scene 1 to scene 2 so that scene 3 could
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>>>differ in pitch by an octave.  This does not appear to be possible, in
>>>that I tried it, but it didn't do anything (i.e. I went into scene 2,
>>>and attempted the copy but it simply refused to do it, despite
>>>appearing as though it was doing it.
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>>>>>So I manually copied it.
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>>>>>My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds,
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>>>and when I set either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable
>>>Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates between the scenes, without
>>>morphing between them.
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>>>etc, and depressed both scene buttons, but it is still not doing it.
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>>>>>Any advice would be gratefully received.
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>>>>>Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Gwyn
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "gwynforevans" <gwynforevans@...> wrote:
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> Hi Jeff: thanks for your comprehensive reply.
> 
> I worked around this, as mentioned in both mine and your other emails
> yesterday, but I wanted to comment that I do not have the option in
> Utility Setup Device or Ctrl No to select "Scene Ctrl".  Only
> "SceneSel" is available in both menus in the relevant place, it being
> number 3 in the list of 90-something controls. Number 4 is blank, as
> are several others in the list.

To copy Scenes between Voices:
1. Hold [SCENE 1] (or [SCENE 2] and enter the number of the voice whose Scene data you 
want to copy. The selected voice number flashes in the LCD.

2. Press [YES/ENTER] to execute the Scene Load operation, or [NO] to cancel it.

To use this function correctly, keep in mind you are initiating the copy from the 
destination Voice/Scene and choosing the Source Voice/Scene. Make sense? This does 
_not_ work *if* you want to copy Scene2 from a Voice to Scene1 of another Voice. You will 
need to Swap Scenes in the source Voice beforehand:

Scene Swap Function
1. Hold [STORE] and press both [SCENE 1] and [SCENE 2] switches. "SURE?[Y/N]" flashes in 
the LCD

2. Press [YES/ENTER] to execute the Scene Swap operation, or [NO] to cancel it.

*Make certain to Store the resulting Voice before resuming with your Scene Copy.


> It may be my OS version or something (it displaying "TEST MODE V 1.02"
> when I start up and hold down 0 + and - together.

No, it works the same under v1.02 as the other release levels.


> Secondly, the copying of the scene did not work even when I followed
> to method you suggest below!  I *can* swap, and I *can* copy from
> other voices, I just cannot copy scene 1 to scene 2.
 
See above explanation - you cannot copy Scene 1 to Scene 2 or Scene 2 to Scene 1 of 
individual Voices unless you perform a Scene Swap in the source Voice beforehand - and 
Store the results - prior to the Scene copy.


I think you had a question regarding Scene Morph too, which I think you've resolved by 
now, but for the record:

> My question is this:  I want to morph between the two bass sounds, and when I set 
either the modulation wheel or one of the assignable Knobs to SceneSel, it just alternates 
between the scenes, without morphing between them.


This is correct if you want to use SceneSel, but not to Morph between Scenes in a Voice. 

Try the following instead:

1. From UTILIT/SETUP menu, choose Ctrl Device - set MW to 1: Mod Dpt using the Ctrl No 
button to select from the available MIDI CC numbers.

2. Now scroll the available choices in Ctrl Device until you reach SCENE - set  SCENE to 1: 
Mod Dpt using the Ctrl No button to select from the available MIDI CC numbers.

3. Pressing both [SCENE] switches simultaneously activates the Scene Control function, 
which lets you "morph", or cross-fade between Scenes in real-time using the assignable 
[MODULATION] wheel, an assignable Foot Controller, or any other continuous controller.

If you want to use a controller other than the Mod Wheel to Morph, the repeat step 2 and 
change SCENE using the Ctrl No button to select from the available MID CC Numbers 

Regards,

Jon