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2000-10-25 by Phil
Hi All, Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has urgently come up. Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to PC? The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon. Many thanks, Phil
2000-10-25 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com
Can't they be saved as Type 0 or Type 1 standard MIDI files and then imported into your Win app? Jon --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has urgently come > up. > > Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to PC?
> > The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon. > > Many thanks, > > Phil
2000-10-25 by Phil
Thanks Jon, Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes". Cheers for your reply, Phil
From: jondl@... Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:06:32 -0000 To: AN1x-list@egroups.com Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor Can't they be saved as Type 0 or Type 1 standard MIDI files and then imported into your Win app? Jon --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has urgently come > up. > > Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to PC? > > The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon. > > Many thanks, > > Phil Community email addresses: Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list
2000-10-25 by Peter Korsten
From: "Phil" <accession@...> > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes". Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks, however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk). I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read Atari disks. - Peter
2000-10-26 by Phil
<***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the moment.> :-))) Hi Peter, A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said: "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course." So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility later down the track. Cheers, Phil
From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@...> Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200 To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor From: "Phil" <accession@...> > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes". Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks, however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk). I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read Atari disks. - Peter Community email addresses: Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list
2000-10-26 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com
Phil, From the Feb. 2000 issue of SOS... http://www.ataricentral.com http://www.incontrolinternet.co.uk/atari/index.html http://www.sak.nu/ http://www.holmerup.com/ and the usual, trusty stand-bys... http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Atari/ http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/atari/ Jon --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the > moment.> :-))) > > Hi Peter, > > A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said: > > "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if > you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL > and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture > files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course." > > > So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility > later down the track. > > Cheers, > > Phil > > > > > > > From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> > Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200 > To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com> > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor > > > From: "Phil" <accession@o...> > > > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI > > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read > > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes". > > Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks, > however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks > is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk). > > I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari > platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read > Atari disks. > > - Peter > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list
2000-10-26 by Phil
Thanks Jon, The mesage boards look like they'll lead to the answers I was after. Many thanks (again) for your help! Phil
From: jondl@... Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:37:05 -0000 To: AN1x-list@egroups.com Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor Phil, >From the Feb. 2000 issue of SOS... http://www.ataricentral.com http://www.incontrolinternet.co.uk/atari/index.html http://www.sak.nu/ http://www.holmerup.com/ and the usual, trusty stand-bys... http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Atari/ http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/atari/ Jon --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote: > <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the > moment.> :-))) > > Hi Peter, > > A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said: > > "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if > you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL > and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture > files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course." > > > So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility > later down the track. > > Cheers, > > Phil > > > > > > > From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> > Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200 > To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com> > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor > > > From: "Phil" <accession@o...> > > > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI > > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read > > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes". > > Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks, > however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks > is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk). > > I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari > platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read > Atari disks. > > - Peter > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list Community email addresses: Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list
2000-10-26 by Peter Korsten
From: "Phil" <accession@...> > <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the > moment.> :-))) What do you mean, "at the moment"? :) > A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said: > > "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if > you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL > and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture > files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course." > > So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility > later down the track. Ah, I see. So they did at least one thing right at Atari. :) I think the whole issue was that Atari wanted to use MS-DOS format disks, but were afraid that Microsoft would sue them if they used the same format - so they changed this one byte. Isn't intellectual property nice? - Peter