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for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.

for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.

2001-07-13 by ELEKTRO DAN

hi, gary
i just wanted to know when your next release of xgedit is comming out.
can you let us know what goodies we can look forward to in the next 
release?

i also wanted to give 2 suggestions. sometimes when you turn the knobs 
in xgedit it takes some effort to to get the value you want sometimes.
it would be cool if you can type the value in the boxes and also turn 
the knobs (best of both worlds).

another cool thing is to sync. delays. i'm no programmer but i think
it might not be possible or mabye to hard to sync. the delays of 
xgedit to a sequencer like cubase (i don't know?) but that vst plugin
d-pole made by waldorf has a probably less complex way of getting 
tempo locked delays. it has a knob that lets you set the tempo and the
delay times are still shown in ms but where the time is in a value 
that is in musical steps 1/4, 1/8 etc. it is shown that way.
mabye you can add something like that to xgedit?

anyway, these are just suggestions. if they're not possible i 
understand. programming looks pretty complex!.
i still and i will use xgedit so can you let us know what we can 
expect in the next release?  i'm one of those guys that search ftp 
servers every day for program updates so i can have some new toys to 
play with so the suspense is killing me!

anyway, thanks gary. you have been always a good help and your 
programs rule!!

elektro dan.

RE: [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.

2001-07-15 by Gary Gregson

HI Dan

>>i also wanted to give 2 suggestions. sometimes when you turn the knobs

in xgedit it takes some effort to get the value you want sometimes.
it would be cool if you can type the value in the boxes and also turn 
the knobs (best of both worlds).<<

I didn't allow typing entries into XGedit/An1xEdit as most of the values
are derived from lookup tables (i.e. not all typed values would be
valid). However you can increase the accuracy of the mouse control by
holding both mouse buttons down. Alternatively, simply highlight the
control and use the PC keyboard + and - keys to increment/decrement
values.

>>
another cool thing is to sync. delays. i'm no programmer but i think
it might not be possible or mabye to hard to sync. the delays of 
xgedit to a sequencer like cubase (i don't know?)
<<

The XG/PLGAN devices do not have a tempo delay effect like the AN1x. As
such there is no way to lock delay effects to sequencer tempo. You can
approximate synchronisation by calculating the effective millisecond
delay setting...but it will not truly 'sync' to the sequencer!

As for XGedit, I have no plans to upgrade the application further in its
current format. I am working on other projects at the moment, including
a format to allow plugin MIDI editors within sequencers. However its
going to be some time before an XGedit in this format is released.  

Regards

Gary Gregson

Email:gary@...
http://www.yme.co.uk/yme

RE:2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.

2001-07-15 by elektro dan

HI,

thanks for the reply. that info for the mouse problem
is very handy!! thanks.

by the way, do you know what tempo the delay LCR is
set to (default)? i hope its 150!! what's the value of
the LCR?  example>>>> L=1/8 C= 1/24 R= 1/16 ???
if you know the other delay values it would be great
aswell.

THANKS AGAIN GARY

elektro dan.


--- Gary Gregson <gary@...> wrote:
> HI Dan
> 
> >>i also wanted to give 2 suggestions. sometimes
> when you turn the knobs
> 
> in xgedit it takes some effort to get the value you
> want sometimes.
> it would be cool if you can type the value in the
> boxes and also turn 
> the knobs (best of both worlds).<<
> 
> I didn't allow typing entries into XGedit/An1xEdit
> as most of the values
> are derived from lookup tables (i.e. not all typed
> values would be
> valid). However you can increase the accuracy of the
> mouse control by
> holding both mouse buttons down. Alternatively,
> simply highlight the
> control and use the PC keyboard + and - keys to
> increment/decrement
> values.
> 
> >>
> another cool thing is to sync. delays. i'm no
> programmer but i think
> it might not be possible or mabye to hard to sync.
> the delays of 
> xgedit to a sequencer like cubase (i don't know?)
> <<
> 
> The XG/PLGAN devices do not have a tempo delay
> effect like the AN1x. As
> such there is no way to lock delay effects to
> sequencer tempo. You can
> approximate synchronisation by calculating the
> effective millisecond
> delay setting...but it will not truly 'sync' to the
> sequencer!
> 
> As for XGedit, I have no plans to upgrade the
> application further in its
> current format. I am working on other projects at
> the moment, including
> a format to allow plugin MIDI editors within
> sequencers. However its
> going to be some time before an XGedit in this
> format is released.  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gary Gregson
> 
> Email:gary@...
> http://www.yme.co.uk/yme 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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email> elektro_dan@...
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Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.

2001-07-15 by Reggie

Synced Delay times are dependent on the Tempo, like you say, pretty
impossible to do given that there are no sync options on the SW1k.  But
there is a small way around it, as the Delay times are accurate to 0.1ms
on the SW1k, a little bit of maths can go a long way.

All you need to do is have a calculator to hand, then divide 60000 by
your tempo and the result will give you the length of 1 note in a 4 note
bar (1/4) if you want eighths divide the value by 2 etc. For all the
other values that you want.


OR you could use XGPad which has a delay calculator built in, that will
insert the value into the knob for you for any Variation or insert
effects that use a delay parameter (It doesn't work for reverb  delays
as they are not accurate enough!)



In article <20010715161502.64651.qmail@...>, elektro
dan <elektro_dan@...> writes
>HI,
>
>thanks for the reply. that info for the mouse problem
>is very handy!! thanks.
>
>by the way, do you know what tempo the delay LCR is
>set to (default)? i hope its 150!! what's the value of
>the LCR?  example>>>> L=1/8 C= 1/24 R= 1/16 ???
>if you know the other delay values it would be great
>aswell.
>
>THANKS AGAIN GARY
>
>elektro dan.
>
>
>--- Gary Gregson <gary@...> wrote:
>> HI Dan
>> 
>> >>i also wanted to give 2 suggestions. sometimes
>> when you turn the knobs
>> 
>> in xgedit it takes some effort to get the value you
>> want sometimes.
>> it would be cool if you can type the value in the
>> boxes and also turn 
>> the knobs (best of both worlds).<<
>> 
>> I didn't allow typing entries into XGedit/An1xEdit
>> as most of the values
>> are derived from lookup tables (i.e. not all typed
>> values would be
>> valid). However you can increase the accuracy of the
>> mouse control by
>> holding both mouse buttons down. Alternatively,
>> simply highlight the
>> control and use the PC keyboard + and - keys to
>> increment/decrement
>> values.
>> 
>> >>
>> another cool thing is to sync. delays. i'm no
>> programmer but i think
>> it might not be possible or mabye to hard to sync.
>> the delays of 
>> xgedit to a sequencer like cubase (i don't know?)
>> <<
>> 
>> The XG/PLGAN devices do not have a tempo delay
>> effect like the AN1x. As
>> such there is no way to lock delay effects to
>> sequencer tempo. You can
>> approximate synchronisation by calculating the
>> effective millisecond
>> delay setting...but it will not truly 'sync' to the
>> sequencer!
>> 
>> As for XGedit, I have no plans to upgrade the
>> application further in its
>> current format. I am working on other projects at
>> the moment, including
>> a format to allow plugin MIDI editors within
>> sequencers. However its
>> going to be some time before an XGedit in this
>> format is released.  
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Gary Gregson
>> 
>> Email:gary@...
>> http://www.yme.co.uk/yme 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>=====
>============================
>           DAN C.
>
>      Toronto, Canada  
>
>email> elektro_dan@...
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See ya,

Reggie

Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.)

2001-07-15 by Phil

Hi all,

There are also software utilities (Mac/PC) that'll do the same thing....

www.hitsquad.com/smm   (...look under "Production Calculator")


Here's an example of what they spit out:


=========================
You said: 132 bpm

Normal Notes:
56.8181818 ms (1/32 Note)
113.6363636 ms (1/16 Note)
227.2727273 ms (1/8 Note)
454.5454545 ms (1/4 Note)
909.0909091 ms (1/2 Note)
1818.1818182 ms (1/1 Note)

Dotted Notes: 
85.2272727 ms (1/32 Note)
170.4545455 ms (1/16 Note)
340.9090909 ms (1/8 Note)
681.8181818 ms (1/4 Note)
1363.6363636 ms (1/2 Note)
2727.2727272 ms (1/1 Note)

Triplet Notes: 
37.8787879 ms (1/32 Note)
75.7575758 ms (1/16 Note)
151.5151515 ms (1/8 Note)
303.030303 ms (1/4 Note)
606.0606061 ms (1/2 Note)
1212.1212122 ms (1/1 Note)
=========================


Have fun!

Phil
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From: Reggie <reggie@...>
Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:43:16 +0100
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.


Synced Delay times are dependent on the Tempo, like you say, pretty
impossible to do given that there are no sync options on the SW1k.  But
there is a small way around it, as the Delay times are accurate to 0.1ms
on the SW1k, a little bit of maths can go a long way.

All you need to do is have a calculator to hand, then divide 60000 by
your tempo and the result will give you the length of 1 note in a 4 note
bar (1/4) if you want eighths divide the value by 2 etc. For all the
other values that you want.


OR you could use XGPad which has a delay calculator built in, that will
insert the value into the knob for you for any Variation or insert
effects that use a delay parameter (It doesn't work for reverb  delays
as they are not accurate enough!)

Re: Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.)

2001-07-16 by Blades

Or, if you want, let me know and I'll send you my very simple Delay
Calculator.  It's very simple and I think "bug-free", and of course,
free....just requires the Visual Basic 6 run-times to be present on your
system, which they are if you have MS Office or you can get them free from
MS.

Blades

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <accession@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 6:47 PM
Subject: Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G.,
XGedit suggestion and question.)
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hi all,
>
> There are also software utilities (Mac/PC) that'll do the same thing....
>
> www.hitsquad.com/smm   (...look under "Production Calculator")
>
>
> Here's an example of what they spit out:
>
>
> =========================
> You said: 132 bpm
>
> Normal Notes:
> 56.8181818 ms (1/32 Note)
> 113.6363636 ms (1/16 Note)
> 227.2727273 ms (1/8 Note)
> 454.5454545 ms (1/4 Note)
> 909.0909091 ms (1/2 Note)
> 1818.1818182 ms (1/1 Note)
>
> Dotted Notes:
> 85.2272727 ms (1/32 Note)
> 170.4545455 ms (1/16 Note)
> 340.9090909 ms (1/8 Note)
> 681.8181818 ms (1/4 Note)
> 1363.6363636 ms (1/2 Note)
> 2727.2727272 ms (1/1 Note)
>
> Triplet Notes:
> 37.8787879 ms (1/32 Note)
> 75.7575758 ms (1/16 Note)
> 151.5151515 ms (1/8 Note)
> 303.030303 ms (1/4 Note)
> 606.0606061 ms (1/2 Note)
> 1212.1212122 ms (1/1 Note)
> =========================
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Reggie <reggie@...>
> Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:43:16 +0100
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.
>
>
> Synced Delay times are dependent on the Tempo, like you say, pretty
> impossible to do given that there are no sync options on the SW1k.  But
> there is a small way around it, as the Delay times are accurate to 0.1ms
> on the SW1k, a little bit of maths can go a long way.
>
> All you need to do is have a calculator to hand, then divide 60000 by
> your tempo and the result will give you the length of 1 note in a 4 note
> bar (1/4) if you want eighths divide the value by 2 etc. For all the
> other values that you want.
>
>
> OR you could use XGPad which has a delay calculator built in, that will
> insert the value into the knob for you for any Variation or insert
> effects that use a delay parameter (It doesn't work for reverb  delays
> as they are not accurate enough!)
>
>
> Community email addresses:
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Re: Tempo-based Delay Times

2001-07-16 by Phil

Good idea. I'll happily pass on my Mac production calculator (standalone
application) if anyone wants it.

Phil
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From: "Blades" <redbrickdream@...>
Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:33:28 -0400
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G.,
XGedit suggestion and question.)


Or, if you want, let me know and I'll send you my very simple Delay
Calculator.  It's very simple and I think "bug-free", and of course,
free....just requires the Visual Basic 6 run-times to be present on your
system, which they are if you have MS Office or you can get them free from
MS.

Blades

Re: Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., XGedit suggestion and question.)

2001-07-17 by neuroziz g-fro

>From: "Blades" <redbrickdream@...>
>Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
>To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Tempo-based Delay Times (was-->Re: 2 [AN1x-list] for Gary G., 
>XGedit suggestion and question.)
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:33:28 -0400
>
>   If you want a very good simple delay calculator go to www.analogx.com, 
>this webpage's got some nice programs that can help you out 
>...............................Neuroziz..............
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