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FYI: Off Topic.

FYI: Off Topic.

2001-09-23 by Thomas

FYI: as my function as a co-moderator i deleted (including my own) 
posts about the topic "racism and xenophobia" and "I can´t believe". 

This happened in the interest of all list members, who rather want to 
read about AN1x and discuss political topics some place else. 

I do apologize to those who i might offend with this. 

I did this to keep the peace on the list and don´t raise any further 
arguments about things single person (you know who you are) posted 
without thinking.

Thank you and may God bless you.

--Tom

?!??!?!?!?! (was Re: FYI: Off Topic.

2001-09-23 by jondl_2000@yahoo.com

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" <tomfinegan@y...> wrote:
> FYI: as my function as a co-moderator i deleted (including my own) 
> posts about the topic "racism and xenophobia" and "I can´t believe". 
> 
> This happened in the interest of all list members, who rather want to 
> read about AN1x and discuss political topics some place else. 
> 
> I do apologize to those who i might offend with this. 

I only wish we had discussed this prior to your deleting items from the 
archive. IMO, this amounts to censorship - no matter how well intended. 
You can't pretend nothing happened 'in the interest of the list 
members'. I hadn't even read the threads(?) in questions(?!) and it now 
seems I'll no longer have the choice. Very disappointing.

If we are ever to learn anything about oursleves and how we relate to 
events that transpire within the world it's best to allow people their 
say. Keeping silent accomplishes nothing :-(

> 
> I did this to keep the peace on the list and don´t raise any further 
> arguments about things single person (you know who you are) posted 
> without thinking.

I assume someone posted something 'inappropriate' regarding current 
events? Well, guess what - there are probably others out there who 
silently *agreed* with the 1st opinion only now you won't have 
opportunity to find who they are and why they feel this way?!

> 
> Thank you and may God bless you.
> 

If someone is 'mature' enough to express their opinion in a public 
forum then they'd better be prepared to handle the consequences - good 
or bad. This mailing list, and others like it, stand or fall on our 
ability to function as a community. If the membership is going to react 
strongly to an inflammatory post - that's understandable - possibly 
justified, maybe not - but lets at least allow people the privilege of 
taking responsibilty for their actions and formulating their own 
opinions. And let's not underestimate the emotional and intellectual 
capacity of the list membership.

Given the state of current events it seems inevetiable that 
controversary is around the corner. I hope we can address those events 
in a mature and responsible manner.

regards,

Jon Levinson
American. World Citizen.

Re: [AN1x-list] ?!??!?!?!?! --> ON TOPIC RIGHT NOW

2001-09-23 by Ferrie Tuin

Oke let's make one thing clear... I'm also a member of
a few other yahoogroups and nobody in those groups has
ever said something about what happened in amerika (it
doesn't mean that we are not interested in what
happened there of course). So please stop talking
about this RIGHT NOW and please stick to the an1x. If
you like to talk about amerika you can do that
privately

greetz Ferrie, and please do NOT respond to this
message. And if you want to respond, do this privately
to me, thanks

--- jondl_2000@... wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" <tomfinegan@y...>
> wrote:
> > FYI: as my function as a co-moderator i deleted
> (including my own) 
> > posts about the topic "racism and xenophobia" and
> "I can\ufffdt believe". 
> > 
> > This happened in the interest of all list members,
> who rather want to 
> > read about AN1x and discuss political topics some
> place else. 
> > 
> > I do apologize to those who i might offend with
> this. 
> 
> I only wish we had discussed this prior to your
> deleting items from the 
> archive. IMO, this amounts to censorship - no matter
> how well intended. 
> You can't pretend nothing happened 'in the interest
> of the list 
> members'. I hadn't even read the threads(?) in
> questions(?!) and it now 
> seems I'll no longer have the choice. Very
> disappointing.
> 
> If we are ever to learn anything about oursleves and
> how we relate to 
> events that transpire within the world it's best to
> allow people their 
> say. Keeping silent accomplishes nothing :-(
> 
> > 
> > I did this to keep the peace on the list and don\ufffdt
> raise any further 
> > arguments about things single person (you know who
> you are) posted 
> > without thinking.
> 
> I assume someone posted something 'inappropriate'
> regarding current 
> events? Well, guess what - there are probably others
> out there who 
> silently *agreed* with the 1st opinion only now you
> won't have 
> opportunity to find who they are and why they feel
> this way?!
> 
> > 
> > Thank you and may God bless you.
> > 
> 
> If someone is 'mature' enough to express their
> opinion in a public 
> forum then they'd better be prepared to handle the
> consequences - good 
> or bad. This mailing list, and others like it, stand
> or fall on our 
> ability to function as a community. If the
> membership is going to react 
> strongly to an inflammatory post - that's
> understandable - possibly 
> justified, maybe not - but lets at least allow
> people the privilege of 
> taking responsibilty for their actions and
> formulating their own 
> opinions. And let's not underestimate the emotional
> and intellectual 
> capacity of the list membership.
> 
> Given the state of current events it seems
> inevetiable that 
> controversary is around the corner. I hope we can
> address those events 
> in a mature and responsible manner.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Jon Levinson
> American. World Citizen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>   Subscribe:    AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> 
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>    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list
>  
> 
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I'm outta here, see ya

2001-09-24 by Tom Eales

YEP, just wanted to say that I am unsubscribing from this group, not because it isn't useful, but because there are a few people who seem to see the group as an opportunity to talk bollocks about shit that is completely irrelevant to the subject AN1X,
 I only check my e-mail every day or two, and if I have 25 unread AN1X messages, half of which are crap jokes from P... (you should know who you are) , then I think I'd rather just leave it. My account is not big enough to handle  that much irrelevant stuff, I'll check back, maybe one day people will start talking about relevant stuff again.
Cheers Guys, some of the sounds from the downloads page were wicked
See ya,
Tom
Tom
  Ferrie Tuin <zpidermen@...> wrote: Oke let's make one thing clear... I'm also a member of
a few other yahoogroups and nobody in those groups has
ever said something about what happened in amerika (it
doesn't mean that we are not interested in what
happened there of course). So please stop talking
about this RIGHT NOW and please stick to the an1x. If
you like to talk about amerika you can do that
privately

greetz Ferrie, and please do NOT respond to this
message. And if you want to respond, do this privately
to me, thanks

--- jondl_2000@... wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" 
> wrote:
> > FYI: as my function as a co-moderator i deleted
> (including my own) 
> > posts about the topic "racism and xenophobia" and
> "I can�t believe". 
> > 
> > This happened in the interest of all list members,
> who rather want to 
> > read about AN1x and discuss political topics some
> place else. 
> > 
> > I do apologize to those who i might offend with
> this. 
> 
> I only wish we had discussed this prior to your
> deleting items from the 
> archive. IMO, this amounts to censorship - no matter
> how well intended. 
> You can't pretend nothing happened 'in the interest
> of the list 
> members'. I hadn't even read the threads(?) in
> questions(?!) and it now 
> seems I'll no longer have the choice. Very
> disappointing.
> 
> If we are ever to learn anything about oursleves and
> how we relate to 
> events that transpire within the world it's best to
> allow people their 
> say. Keeping silent accomplishes nothing :-(
> 
> > 
> > I did this to keep the peace on the list and don�t
> raise any further 
> > arguments about things single person (you know who
> you are) posted 
> > without thinking.
> 
> I assume someone posted something 'inappropriate'
> regarding current 
> events? Well, guess what - there are probably others
> out there who 
> silently *agreed* with the 1st opinion only now you
> won't have 
> opportunity to find who they are and why they feel
> this way?!
> 
> > 
> > Thank you and may God bless you.
> > 
> 
> If someone is 'mature' enough to express their
> opinion in a public 
> forum then they'd better be prepared to handle the
> consequences - good 
> or bad. This mailing list, and others like it, stand
> or fall on our 
> ability to function as a community. If the
> membership is going to react 
> strongly to an inflammatory post - that's
> understandable - possibly 
> justified, maybe not - but lets at least allow
> people the privilege of 
> taking responsibilty for their actions and
> formulating their own 
> opinions. And let's not underestimate the emotional
> and intellectual 
> capacity of the list membership.
> 
> Given the state of current events it seems
> inevetiable that 
> controversary is around the corner. I hope we can
> address those events 
> in a mature and responsible manner.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Jon Levinson
> American. World Citizen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> 
> Community email addresses:
> Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Unsubscribe: 
> AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Shortcut URL to this page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list
> 
> 
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> 
> 


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Re: I'm outta here, see ya

2001-09-24 by Thomas

There is still the option for you to read postings online at 
groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list. In this way you can avoid OT-
postings.

--Tom
--- In AN1x-list@y..., Tom Eales <ealspin@y...> wrote:
> 
>  YEP, just wanted to say that I am unsubscribing from this group, 
not because it isn't useful, but because there are a few people who 
seem to see the group as an opportunity to talk bollocks about shit 
that is completely irrelevant to the subject AN1X,
>  I only check my e-mail every day or two, and if I have 25 unread 
AN1X messages, half of which are crap jokes from P... (you should 
know who you are) , then I think I'd rather just leave it. My account 
is not big enough to handle  that much irrelevant stuff, I'll check 
back, maybe one day people will start talking about relevant stuff 
again.
> Cheers Guys, some of the sounds from the downloads page were wicked
> See ya,
> Tom
> Tom
>   Ferrie Tuin <zpidermen@y...> wrote: Oke let's make one thing 
clear... I'm also a member of
> a few other yahoogroups and nobody in those groups has
> ever said something about what happened in amerika (it
> doesn't mean that we are not interested in what
> happened there of course). So please stop talking
> about this RIGHT NOW and please stick to the an1x. If
> you like to talk about amerika you can do that
> privately
> 
> greetz Ferrie, and please do NOT respond to this
> message. And if you want to respond, do this privately
> to me, thanks
> 
> --- jondl_2000@y... wrote:
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" 
> > wrote:
> > > FYI: as my function as a co-moderator i deleted
> > (including my own) 
> > > posts about the topic "racism and xenophobia" and
> > "I can´t believe". 
> > > 
> > > This happened in the interest of all list members,
> > who rather want to 
> > > read about AN1x and discuss political topics some
> > place else. 
> > > 
> > > I do apologize to those who i might offend with
> > this. 
> > 
> > I only wish we had discussed this prior to your
> > deleting items from the 
> > archive. IMO, this amounts to censorship - no matter
> > how well intended. 
> > You can't pretend nothing happened 'in the interest
> > of the list 
> > members'. I hadn't even read the threads(?) in
> > questions(?!) and it now 
> > seems I'll no longer have the choice. Very
> > disappointing.
> > 
> > If we are ever to learn anything about oursleves and
> > how we relate to 
> > events that transpire within the world it's best to
> > allow people their 
> > say. Keeping silent accomplishes nothing :-(
> > 
> > > 
> > > I did this to keep the peace on the list and don´t
> > raise any further 
> > > arguments about things single person (you know who
> > you are) posted 
> > > without thinking.
> > 
> > I assume someone posted something 'inappropriate'
> > regarding current 
> > events? Well, guess what - there are probably others
> > out there who 
> > silently *agreed* with the 1st opinion only now you
> > won't have 
> > opportunity to find who they are and why they feel
> > this way?!
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you and may God bless you.
> > > 
> > 
> > If someone is 'mature' enough to express their
> > opinion in a public 
> > forum then they'd better be prepared to handle the
> > consequences - good 
> > or bad. This mailing list, and others like it, stand
> > or fall on our 
> > ability to function as a community. If the
> > membership is going to react 
> > strongly to an inflammatory post - that's
> > understandable - possibly 
> > justified, maybe not - but lets at least allow
> > people the privilege of 
> > taking responsibilty for their actions and
> > formulating their own 
> > opinions. And let's not underestimate the emotional
> > and intellectual 
> > capacity of the list membership.
> > 
> > Given the state of current events it seems
> > inevetiable that 
> > controversary is around the corner. I hope we can
> > address those events 
> > in a mature and responsible manner.
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Jon Levinson
> > American. World Citizen.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > 
> > Community email addresses:
> > Post message: AN1x-list@y...
> > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y...
> > Unsubscribe: 
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> > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y...
> > 
> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list
> > 
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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