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Hi,

I just realised that scene control is totally different with these two
machines. With AN1x you're able to have two totally different sounds per
scene. With AN200 you only have one voice for both scenes and you can tweak
knobs two different position and save their positions to different scenes.
But for example distortion and mono/poly/legato/unison and oscillator wave
form are same for both scenes... hmm, let me think... yes, it seems that
those push buttons are global for both scenes. ... So there's going to be
big difference if you load AN1x combination voice to AN200.

Also effects sections are totally different between these two cousins.

Cheers,
TimoS

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Timo Sandholm" <timo.sandholm@u...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just realised that scene control is totally different with these two
> machines. With AN1x you're able to have two totally different sounds per
> scene.

I think you'r confusing some AN1x terms here. Each Voice (Yamaha's term 
for a preset) may have two scenes. Each scene may be completely 
different or a variation of the primary scene. 

With AN200 you only have one voice for both scenes and you can tweak
> knobs two different position and save their positions to different scenes.

Again, two scenes in a voice. Your comparison is six of one, half a 
dozne of the other. It works the same on the AN1x.

> But for example distortion and mono/poly/legato/unison and oscillator wave
> form are same for both scenes... hmm, let me think... yes, it seems that
> those push buttons are global for both scenes. ... 

That's an unusual difference. I assume this was implemented due to the 
difference in polyphony and layering modes?

So there's going to be
> big difference if you load AN1x combination voice to AN200.
> 
> Also effects sections are totally different between these two cousins.
> 

How so? The AN1x has Variation (modulation type effects), Delay, and 
Reverb (and EQ) sections. Each effect has many parameters to be tweaked 
and one parmameter which can be altered in real time via the Common 
Param in the Ctrl Matrix.

> Cheers,
> TimoS

Hmmm...which editor are you using to tweak these parameters....or are
you using the front panel of the AN200?

>>
I just realised that scene control is totally different with these two
machines. With AN1x you're able to have two totally different sounds per
scene.
<<

No you have one voice that contains two scenes on the An1x. Whereas on
the AN200 (PLG150AN) you have one voice that contains a single scene. On
the AN200 you can still morph to another scene, but in reality it is
morphing to another voice (either stored in the user memory or from one
of the preset banks)

>>
With AN200 you only have one voice for both scenes and you can tweak
knobs two different position and save their positions to different
scenes.
<<

NO! With the AN200 you only have one scene per voice!

>>
But for example distortion and mono/poly/legato/unison and oscillator
wave
form are same for both scenes... hmm, let me think... yes, it seems that
those push buttons are global for both scenes.
<<

distortion and unison are voice common parmaeters. Therefore even on the
(dual scene) AN1x these parameters are common to both scenes.

mono/poly/legato are Scene PEG parameters. Therefore on the An1x you can
adjust them separately for each scene. However on the AN200 you only
have one scene, so they are essentially common to the voice also.

Distortion (I presume) is the AMP SIM effect parameter (DRIVE). 

>>
So there's going to be big difference if you load AN1x combination voice
to AN200
<<

The big difference if you load an AN1x voice into a AN200 (PLG150AN), is
that you will lose the second scene of the AN1x voice, plus you will
lose the AN1x effect setings (with the exception of the case where your
voice happened to use AMP SIM). There are several other minor
differences (check out the AN1xEdit Help file introduction section if
you want the gory details)

In general most AN1x voices do not rely heavily on the second scene (it
is generally a variation for morphing, or is a keyobard split sound).
Therefore most AN1x voices actually convert quite well to
AN200/PLG150AN.

>>Also effects sections are totally different between these two cousins.

Yes the only AN effect units retained on the PLG150AN are Variation and
EQ. The EQ module is fully functional but the variation module only
contains the AMP SIM effect.

The AN200 is effectively (and physically) a PLG150AN board hosted on a
mini XG-like device (providing drums and effects), all mounted in a case
with knobs. Therefore the effects of the AN200 have more in common with
XG devices (such as MU100 & SW1000XG etc). The only effect coming from
the AN board is the AMP SIM which I guess is the one they refer to as
distortion.
  
Regards

Gary Gregson

Email:gary@...
http://www.yme.co.uk/yme 

-----Original Message-----
From: Timo Sandholm [mailto:timo.sandholm@...] 
Sent: 26 October 2001 07:55
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] More AN1x vs AN200 comparision

Hi,

I just realised that scene control is totally different with these two
machines. With AN1x you're able to have two totally different sounds per
scene. With AN200 you only have one voice for both scenes and you can
tweak
knobs two different position and save their positions to different
scenes.
But for example distortion and mono/poly/legato/unison and oscillator
wave
form are same for both scenes... hmm, let me think... yes, it seems that
those push buttons are global for both scenes. ... So there's going to
be
big difference if you load AN1x combination voice to AN200.

Also effects sections are totally different between these two cousins.

Cheers,
TimoS






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