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Even if you use the ring modulator correctly, it doesn't have the 
wild distorted out of tune craziness that a standalone analog ring 
modulator has. Probably the AN1X's is more useful, I don't know.

Rainbow Jimmy
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--- In AN1x-list@y..., "spaceanimals" <alciere@m...> wrote:
> Even if you use the ring modulator correctly, it doesn't have the 
> wild distorted out of tune craziness that a standalone analog ring 
> modulator has. Probably the AN1X's is more useful, I don't know.

Funny how everyone has different perceptions. I always felt that the 
ring mod was one of the best modelled features of the AN1X. It may be 
that with the analog ring mod, you are used to sending a steady pitch 
as one of the tones. In orer to get this effect, you would want to 
use the mod matrix to defeat the pitch tracking on one of the 
oscillators so it stays at the same pitch. 

Here's two patches I do get some fun out of the ring mod.

Patch 1 - Ring modulator on the attack

In the mixer I have osc 1 set to about 80, ring mod set to 127 and 
osc 2 set to 0. Both oscillators are tuned to the same pitch. I have 
a pitch envelope depth 30-63, and decay about 15-30 modulating ONLY 
osc 2 which is going to provide the interest in the ring modulator. 
For extra oomph. I have the VCA feedback running at between 90 and 
110. Everything else in the patch would be like a standard, fairly 
bright lead, bass or brass sound.

Patch 2 - Ring modulator explosions

Same general parameters as patch 1 but I would set the pitch envelope 
decay to 63 and leave the envelope depth at 0. in the mod matrix I 
would set ribbon x to modulate the pitch envelope depth. Then I go 
ahead and fine tune the patch into a nice sounding lead. When I play 
the lead, the ring modulator doesn't do anything usually. But if I 
touch the ribbon anywhere except center, I can trigger an upward or 
downward explosion.  The VCA feedback is key to the explosion. I try 
to get it just south of the point where it's about to start grinding. 
Then the explosions sound really cool to me.

I love that ring mod.

Cheers,

Jerry

Got a chance to play with a friend's home grown ring modulator. With 
that, the carrier frequency is a constant. With the AN1X the carrier 
frequency is osc A so the carrier frequency changes note for note. Is 
that correct?

What settings are poeple using for the ring mod?

Rainbow Jimmy

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "spaceanimals" <rainbowjimmy@s...> 
wrote:
> Got a chance to play with a friend's home grown ring modulator. 
With 
> that, the carrier frequency is a constant. With the AN1X the 
carrier 
> frequency is osc A so the carrier frequency changes note for note. 
Is 
> that correct?
> 
> What settings are poeple using for the ring mod?
> 
> Rainbow Jimmy

Hey Jimmy:

Yeah the ring mod comse into own with non-consonant frequencies. I 
use it just to support the basic saw waveforms, but more 
interestingly:

It works great with sine-ish waves where it's in-hamonic overtones 
can play to good effect. You can bring it in and out of the mix or 
sweep the pitch of one of the oscillators for snarl.

I do this on my standard whistle patch.

Osc 1: pitch =+12, Edge = 0
Mixer Osc 1 = 126 Osc 2 = 0, Ring Mod = 0, Noise = 0

I might have LFO modulation of pitch for vibrato. Then I add:

Osc 1= pitch = -37, Edge = 0

Then I map Ring mod volume to Ribbon Z. This way I get a snarl/growl 
when I hit the ribbon. Another way to use it as a performance tool. 
is to keep the ring modulator always on and play with the ptich. I 
set oscillater to -64 pitch. This creates a vibrato. Now sweep the 
pitch of Osc 2 upwards with the knob and than back down to its 
standard position of -64.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Aiyathurai" <tuskerfort@h...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "spaceanimals" <rainbowjimmy@s...> 
> wrote:
> > What settings are poeple using for the ring mod?
> > 
> > Rainbow Jimmy
> 
> I do this on my standard whistle patch.
> 
> Osc 1: pitch =+12, Edge = 0
> Mixer Osc 1 = 126 Osc 2 = 0, Ring Mod = 0, Noise = 0
> 
> I might have LFO modulation of pitch for vibrato. Then I add:
> 
> Osc 1= pitch = -37, Edge = 0
> 
> Then I map Ring mod volume to Ribbon Z. This way I get a snarl/growl 
> when I hit the ribbon. Another way to use it as a performance tool. 
> is to keep the ring modulator always on and play with the ptich. I 
> set oscillater to -64 pitch. This creates a vibrato. Now sweep the 
> pitch of Osc 2 upwards with the knob and than back down to its 
> standard position of -64.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jerry

What a great tip, thanks Jerry. It never occured to me map Ring Mod to the 
Ribbon...doh!

Jon