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Well, here's something that got me thinking.
The an1x saves patches to its internal memory, right? And there are 
only 128 slots, right? ("I speaka english, i learn it froma a boook")
Now, say that you have a setup similar to mine: An1x as synth, rm1x 
as sequencer, and a phrase sampler. I will most probably have to fill 
up the sampler with new samples when i load a new song into the rm1x. 
the sampler doesnt hold that much sample space. What about the an1x, 
are the 128 slots enough, to save custom made patches? (for 
a "general user") And is everything set up so i just need to load 
songs from the sequencer and it will immediately pick the right 
patches from the an1x? Eh I realize this question is a bit "vague", 
which is because i am a beginner to MIDI, but i think my overall 
question is this: 
-Do people generally have to "fiddle" a lot with their equipment when 
they switch between different saved songs, or can you work in an 
environment where songs are just fired up and played/edited.

(i mean, i just have an an1x, but i guess some people here have whole 
rooms filled with freakin synths that are all linked together...?   :)

Hi Jacob,

> The an1x saves patches to its internal memory, right? And there are
> only 128 slots, right?

Yes, you're correct. The AN1x features 128 user
programs/patches/presets/slots. They are all contained in a single bank.
Some synths, make that most synths feature lots of banks, with each bank
containing 128 patches.

N.B. A patch doesn't contain any sound waveforms as such, well not like
you'd save audio waveforms in your sampler for example, rather each patch
contains the AN1x parameter setup to create a sound.


> What about the an1x,
> are the 128 slots enough, to save custom made patches? (for
> a "general user")

Depends how many sounds you use. You'll find most people use "AN1x Edit"
(the computer visual editor for the AN1x) for patch library management on
their Mac/PC. Basically you load/receive single or whole banks from the AN1x
onto your computer. Check the files section (from the AN1x homepage at
www.yahoogroups.com) for AN1x Edit and 1000s of patches.


> And is everything set up so i just need to load
> songs from the sequencer and it will immediately pick the right
> patches from the an1x?

Pretty much. Expect the sequencer in theory only knows the patch number. If
you haven't loaded in the right bank or don't have the right patch assigned
to that patch number beforehand, the wrong sound will play. Sort of like
hitting the Channel 10 button on your TV except it's tuned into Channel 9.

You can also dump an entire bank (and possibly single patches too - can't
recall off the top of my head) into your sequencer and then play it back
before your song starts to return the patch info to the AN1x.


> -Do people generally have to "fiddle" a lot with their equipment when
> they switch between different saved songs, or can you work in an
> environment where songs are just fired up and played/edited.

With the AN1x' limited patch storage, it really depends whether you can keep
all your favourite patches in the same bank. Other synths have several banks
and so one's less likely to be chasing down patch dumps to set things up in
the synth before playing back the song.


> (i mean, i just have an an1x, but i guess some people here have whole
> rooms filled with freakin synths that are all linked together...?   :)

Yes, but it could be worse. Anyone want to buy an AN1x... er, not now but
possibly later this year...

Hope that helps.

Phil

Hi Phil. Thanks for a very good explanation.

> N.B. A patch doesn't contain any sound waveforms as such, well not 
like
> you'd save audio waveforms in your sampler for example, rather each 
patch
> contains the AN1x parameter setup to create a sound.

I've come as far as to understand that - its all algorithms, used in 
clever ways...  :)

> > What about the an1x,
> > are the 128 slots enough, to save custom made patches? (for
> > a "general user")
> 
> Depends how many sounds you use. You'll find most people use "AN1x 
Edit"
> (the computer visual editor for the AN1x) for patch library 
management on
> their Mac/PC. Basically you load/receive single or whole banks from 
the AN1x
> onto your computer. Check the files section (from the AN1x homepage 
at
> www.yahoogroups.com) for AN1x Edit and 1000s of patches.

Dang... i'll need yet another cable. That'll be one of those MIDI 
cables with DIN in one end and a "joystick plug" in the other, right? 
I have a soundblaster AWE 64. I wonder if i can have a constant set-
up then. I was thinking i maybe wouldnt need to get the computer 
involved. Today i have an AN1x (in/out/thru) connected to a Rm1x 
(in/out/thru) which is also connected to a sampler (in)

> > And is everything set up so i just need to load
> > songs from the sequencer and it will immediately pick the right
> > patches from the an1x?
> 
> Pretty much. Expect the sequencer in theory only knows the patch 
number. If
> you haven't loaded in the right bank or don't have the right patch 
assigned
> to that patch number beforehand, the wrong sound will play. Sort of 
like
> hitting the Channel 10 button on your TV except it's tuned into 
Channel 9.

Yeah i figured that... but i mean, lets say i want to use patch 67 on 
track 8 of my rm1x sequencer....  i configure track 8 to send audio 
on midichannel 8 and not send anything to the internal rm1x tone 
generator. Can i save information in the An1x patch, so that it knows 
it will listen to midi channel 8?

> You can also dump an entire bank (and possibly single patches too - 
can't
> recall off the top of my head) into your sequencer and then play it 
back
> before your song starts to return the patch info to the AN1x.

Uhm... could you explain that again?

thanks
/Jacob

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Hello Jacob,

>Snip<
Yeah i figured that... but i mean, lets say i want to use patch 67 on 
track 8 of my rm1x sequencer.... i configure track 8 to send audio 
on midichannel 8 and not send anything to the internal rm1x tone 
generator. Can i save information in the An1x patch, so that it knows 
it will listen to midi channel 8?
>Snip<

You should take in consideration the multytimbrality of AN1X.
AN1X is a 2 Channel multitimbrale (i.e 2 MIDI CH only) one for each 
Scene.  each Scene can be assigned it's own MIDI Ch. and be played 
independently by incomming MIDI signals, Note that when layer mode is 
set to single or unison the Rx Ch. for Scene 1 and 2 is the same.
As for the RM1X internal T.G that's a paine in the neck... since you 
can't filter incomming datato the internal TG Ch. the workarround is 
to mute the related channel incase you don't want it to sound as a 
layer over the AN1X.

So That's it hope you will find a way to enjoy it.

All the Best
Danny