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hey all.  new member here, 1rst post.  about 4 days of lurking and 
going back as far as possible. great stuff.  

1rst off:  i love my synth.  the sound is truly great, the action is 
great, and the editing is nicely laid out (haven't had too much time 
yet and have not even tried the editor or all your patches yet, but 
will get to it as soon as possible.) (can't wait to hear what you 
guys have come up with. 

anyways, the only downside for me is the knobs.  they feel cheap.  i 
have only laid hands on mine which i got second hand  so i might 
have a bad unit, but there is a little give when turning the knobs.  
you feel a space between twists and actual value change. this makes 
live performance tricky as it's not as accutely responsive as i 
would like.  the only other synth i have had (not counting 
workstations or pianos) is the korg z1 and the knobs were way 
better, of course more expensive.  the sound i like much more on the 
an1x.

now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand we are 
getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to 
replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here 
corrected this?

thanks for any help.

Welcome to your synth... please observe the seatbelt light.
Realize this about the knobs: there are two functions per knob - coarse and fine
tune
Turn the knob normally for coarse variations of the parameter.
Press down and turn for fine variations.
You are now free to move about your synth.
Enjoy your flight on AN1x Airlines.

eee - Edward Edwards
http://www.ezekielswheel.com
http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of deeperjazz
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:59 PM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AN1x] knob issues
>
>

thanks ed.  i have seen the 2 two ways of using the knobs, my issue 
is with the feel. the little bit of give when you start tweaking and 
the knob has actual contact with the inner rod.  has anybody 
replaced the knob covers to better results?

thanks. vic


--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> 
wrote:
> Welcome to your synth... please observe the seatbelt light.
> Realize this about the knobs: there are two functions per knob - 
coarse and fine
> tune
> Turn the knob normally for coarse variations of the parameter.
> Press down and turn for fine variations.
> You are now free to move about your synth.
> Enjoy your flight on AN1x Airlines.
> 
> eee - Edward Edwards
> http://www.ezekielswheel.com
> http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-
list@yahoogroups.com]On

> > Behalf Of deeperjazz
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:59 PM
> > To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AN1x] knob issues
> >
> >

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "deeperjazz" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:
> 
> now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand we are 
> getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to 
> replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here 
> corrected this?
> 
> thanks for any help.

You sum it up in this sentence 'getting a lot of bang for the buck' ;-)  The encoders are 
what they are - not as good as many others, true, but they tend not to wear out 
prematurely, i.e., become totoally unusuable.

Replacing the encoders would be an ambitious project - I don't recall anybody on this list 
having posted an experience from having done so - mostly just cosmetic cap 
replacements. 

You could most likely acquire replacements from Mouser or EPR Electronics (probably 
many others suppliers too but these are the two I've heard of often) once you've opened 
the case and had a look at the specifications.

I use to be active on the ASR-X list, not so any more, and this subject came up _often_ and 
many 'how to' tips and articles were posted along with a pictorial documenting the 
procedure. I suspect it would be similar for the AN1x. Here are the links to those articles 
from my website and others:

http://www.geocities.com/asrxcite/asrx/tt_encoders_part4.htm
http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/asrx/asrxenc.htm

Obviously the specifics will not apply but this should at least give you an idea of how you 
might approach replacing the encoders.

HTH

Jon

thanks jon.  yeah you're right, sounds maybe too ambitious for me.  
i was thinking that maybe the plastic knobs were just ill fitting 
and i could just replace them, or adapt them to fit better, but i 
don't want to touch the electronics. 

thanks . vic

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "deeperjazz" <deeperjazz@y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand we 
are 
> > getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to 
> > replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here 
> > corrected this?
> > 
> > thanks for any help.
> 
> You sum it up in this sentence 'getting a lot of bang for the 
buck' ;-)  The encoders are 
> what they are - not as good as many others, true, but they tend 
not to wear out 
> prematurely, i.e., become totoally unusuable.
> 
> Replacing the encoders would be an ambitious project - I don't 
recall anybody on this list 
> having posted an experience from having done so - mostly just 
cosmetic cap 
> replacements. 
> 
> You could most likely acquire replacements from Mouser or EPR 
Electronics (probably 
> many others suppliers too but these are the two I've heard of 
often) once you've opened 
> the case and had a look at the specifications.
> 
> I use to be active on the ASR-X list, not so any more, and this 
subject came up _often_ and 
> many 'how to' tips and articles were posted along with a pictorial 
documenting the 
> procedure. I suspect it would be similar for the AN1x. Here are 
the links to those articles 
> from my website and others:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/asrxcite/asrx/tt_encoders_part4.htm
> http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/asrx/asrxenc.htm
> 
> Obviously the specifics will not apply but this should at least 
give you an idea of how you 

> might approach replacing the encoders.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jon

You can buy replacement knobs at Radio Shack or any electronics store.
It's a standard "half moon" knob fitting, though you might need a
jeweler's screw to secure the knob to the rod.

I haven't done it myself but it might make your AN1x look more, dare,
I say, "Vintage"

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "deeperjazz" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:

>
> hey all.  new member here, 1rst post.  about 4 days of lurking and 
> going back as far as possible. great stuff.  
> 
> 1rst off:  i love my synth.  the sound is truly great, the action is 
> great, and the editing is nicely laid out (haven't had too much time 
> yet and have not even tried the editor or all your patches yet, but 
> will get to it as soon as possible.) (can't wait to hear what you 
> guys have come up with. 
> 
> anyways, the only downside for me is the knobs.  they feel cheap.  i 
> have only laid hands on mine which i got second hand  so i might 
> have a bad unit, but there is a little give when turning the knobs.  
> you feel a space between twists and actual value change. this makes 
> live performance tricky as it's not as accutely responsive as i 
> would like.  the only other synth i have had (not counting 
> workstations or pianos) is the korg z1 and the knobs were way 
> better, of course more expensive.  the sound i like much more on the 
> an1x.
> 
> now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand we are 
> getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to 
> replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here 
> corrected this?
> 
> thanks for any help.
>

you are aware of that you can push down the knob and turn to get more 
accurate values...?

/fredrik


>From: "Silent Android" <elson@...>
>Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
>To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AN1x] Re: knob issues
>Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:20:12 -0000
>
>You can buy replacement knobs at Radio Shack or any electronics store.
>It's a standard "half moon" knob fitting, though you might need a
>jeweler's screw to secure the knob to the rod.
>
>I haven't done it myself but it might make your AN1x look more, dare,
>I say, "Vintage"
>
>--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "deeperjazz" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:
> >
> > hey all.  new member here, 1rst post.  about 4 days of lurking and
> > going back as far as possible. great stuff.
> >
> > 1rst off:  i love my synth.  the sound is truly great, the action is
> > great, and the editing is nicely laid out (haven't had too much time
> > yet and have not even tried the editor or all your patches yet, but
> > will get to it as soon as possible.) (can't wait to hear what you
> > guys have come up with.
> >
> > anyways, the only downside for me is the knobs.  they feel cheap.  i
> > have only laid hands on mine which i got second hand  so i might
> > have a bad unit, but there is a little give when turning the knobs.
> > you feel a space between twists and actual value change. this makes
> > live performance tricky as it's not as accutely responsive as i
> > would like.  the only other synth i have had (not counting
> > workstations or pianos) is the korg z1 and the knobs were way
> > better, of course more expensive.  the sound i like much more on the
> > an1x.
> >
> > now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand we are
> > getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to
> > replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here
> > corrected this?
> >
> > thanks for any help.
> >
>
>
>
>

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thanks, but yes.  my issue was more with the feel and physical 
manipulation than the actual values, slow to respond due to a little 
give.  but i'm dealing just fine.  love my synth. 

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik H" <blorprec@h...> wrote:
>
> you are aware of that you can push down the knob and turn to get 
more 
> accurate values...?
> 
> /fredrik
> 
> 
> >From: "Silent Android" <elson@e...>
> >Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> >To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [AN1x] Re: knob issues
> >Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:20:12 -0000
> >
> >You can buy replacement knobs at Radio Shack or any electronics 
store.
> >It's a standard "half moon" knob fitting, though you might need a
> >jeweler's screw to secure the knob to the rod.
> >
> >I haven't done it myself but it might make your AN1x look more, 
dare,
> >I say, "Vintage"
> >
> >--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "deeperjazz" <deeperjazz@y...> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > hey all.  new member here, 1rst post.  about 4 days of lurking 
and
> > > going back as far as possible. great stuff.
> > >
> > > 1rst off:  i love my synth.  the sound is truly great, the 
action is
> > > great, and the editing is nicely laid out (haven't had too 
much time
> > > yet and have not even tried the editor or all your patches 
yet, but
> > > will get to it as soon as possible.) (can't wait to hear what 
you
> > > guys have come up with.
> > >
> > > anyways, the only downside for me is the knobs.  they feel 
cheap.  i
> > > have only laid hands on mine which i got second hand  so i 
might
> > > have a bad unit, but there is a little give when turning the 
knobs.
> > > you feel a space between twists and actual value change. this 
makes
> > > live performance tricky as it's not as accutely responsive as i
> > > would like.  the only other synth i have had (not counting
> > > workstations or pianos) is the korg z1 and the knobs were way
> > > better, of course more expensive.  the sound i like much more 
on the
> > > an1x.
> > >
> > > now the question.  if this is standard on an1x ( i understand 
we are

> > > getting a lot of bang for the buck) is it a knob issue (easy to
> > > replace i guess)  or the actual encoder rod?  has anybody here
> > > corrected this?
> > >
> > > thanks for any help.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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