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In a message dated 7/28/00 4:37:16 AM Central Daylight Time, 
jerrya3@... writes:

<< Plan to do some ethnic music (a 
 la Deep Forest) with the AN1X sometime >>


ahh yeah, deep forest rocks.....let us know when you get some stuff out....

ash

Talking about Americans...Am I the only South American on this list??? and,
just for couriosity, there's anyone that speaks Portuguese?

PinheadX

> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, angelphkt@a... wrote:
> > I was just wondering where everyone is from...i guess the thought
> > never really crossed my mind until now...
>
> You are sooo american...hehe...just teasing...
>
> Me? Hamburg, Germany
>
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"You are sooo american...hehe...just teasing...

Me? Hamburg, Germany"

hey, be nice i eat my saur kraut! heheheh j/k

AshWagers
Destroying America's moral fibre for over 20 years.

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Phil, 

You Aussies produce some great wines. 

Cheers.
--- Phil <accession@...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, angelphkt@a... wrote:
> > I was just wondering where everyone is from...i
> guess the thought
> > never really crossed my mind until now...
> 
>      You are sooo american...hehe...just teasing...
> 
> 
> 
> hehehe :-D
> 
> What I thought was amusing was our American friends
> all referring to
> everything being the "biggest in the world!" Let me
> see... in Australia we
> are the 'Biggest Island', have the 'Biggest Rock',
> and the 'Biggest gay
> population.... er, outside of San Francisco!'
> 
> "....Not that there's anything wrong with that!"
> 
> Cheers guys and girls! Remember this was just a
> little friendly stirring -
> there was no harm meant in it at all!
> 
> Phil  :-)
> (from the "laziest country in the world"!) 
> 


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"....You Aussies produce some great wines."

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, angelphkt@a... wrote:
> "You are sooo american...hehe...just teasing...
> 
> Me? Hamburg, Germany"
> 
> hey, be nice i eat my saur kraut! heheheh j/k
LOL...ph..:OP  ;O)  

...typical american..."All germans eat Sauerkraut"...yeaaaah 
riiight...Germany is a lot bigger than Bavaria...which is indeed in 
the south of Germany, Hamburg in the North near the Northsea.
And by the way i rather eat Curry Chicken than ew-Sauerkraut...

Anyway...as we are already OT, i want to remind everyone to register 
for the first "democratic" worldwide vote for ICANN (www.icann.org).

 You should register until 31st July 2000, or you can´t vote in 
October for the committee. By the way, already 30,000 Chinese and 
20,000 Japanese are registered, but only 18,000 Americans and 18,000 
Germans....still only 100,000 out of a world of 200 million ppl who 
surf the net...poor humankind...

ICANN is the organization, which takes care of issueing top-level 
domains, internet-root-servers and so forth. It will be voted by all 
internet-user who are over 16, has an email-adress (even GMX or 
Hotmail and similar work) and who are registered at ICANN.

So go, register and vote in the first "democratic" worldwide vote. 
Maybe a small step towards a "world-government"? 

Cheers, Tom

http://www.icann.org

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http://beam.to/Plasmaleitung

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Philip <synth72@y...> wrote:
> Phil, 
> 
> You Aussies produce some great wines. 

And great actors and movies (Mel Gibson "Mad Max") oh and to make the 
swing back to AN1x, synthesizer, music in general....you brought us 
Kylie Minogue, who sucks in the 80´s but nowadays is kinda cool.

Tom

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> (....from the land of the outback sun, surf, sand, singlets, 
Stubbies
> (shorts), thongs (a type of sandal or shoe - not a 'G'!), and 
Fosters
> (beer).

Uh uh, speaking of "aussie"-thon..erm..things...

These Didgeridoo-noises, did someone already tried to get this out of 
the AN1x? I tried it with ReBirth and it sounds "solala", you 
know...i get the basic noise but the up and downs are hard (when you 
only can use the mouse, no wonder)

Tom

From: <tomfinegan@...>

> Does Japan has a Football team?

As a matter of fact, they organise the 2002 World Cup, together with
South-Korea.

And they make great synths as well. :)

In the "World Cup of synth manufacturers" there are only a few countries...
Japan, of course, the USA, Germany is pretty strong, the UK has some stuff,
and Sweden is the outsider.

Or did I miss someone?

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:
> From: <tomfinegan@y...>
> 
> > Does Japan has a Football team?
> 
> As a matter of fact, they organise the 2002 World Cup, together with
> South-Korea.
Oops..see i don´t know anything about "Fußball", not to mention i 
hate it like i hate any other sport...maybe except Sumo-
Wrestling...*G*..those chubby dudes lifting each other from the 
ground, throwing someplace else..whoa, i have to respect that..(no, i 
don´t mean WWF, i mean REAL wrestling with 350 pounds dudes...not 
these skinny action-dolls with "What-was-his-name?"-smasher)

> Or did I miss someone?
Yup Belgium with Sherman...they make this "Filterbank"...okay not a 
real Synth but almost as complex as one.
Hopefully Yammie will make another AN with a Audio-In and stuff, b/c 
i am sick of hearing ppl. telling on Sonicstate how cool their MS2k 
is...

Anyways...

later
Tom

From: <tomfinegan@...>


> Hopefully Yammie will make another AN with a Audio-In and stuff, b/c
> i am sick of hearing ppl. telling on Sonicstate how cool their MS2k
> is...

Well, they do have PLG150-ANX board, and there is mention (and it has been
for quite a while) that several manufacturers, including Yamaha, are working
on a rackmount that houses no less than eight of these PLG boards.

It should also be possible to route audio from one board to the other
(although the PLG150-ANX doesn't take external audio). I've also heard
rumours about a generic programmable DSP board.

But nothing is definte - just strong rumours from people who know more, but
can't say more.

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:
> on a rackmount that houses no less than eight of these PLG boards.
Hm...i may be conservative, but the appeal of these PLG boards never 
reached me. I am not sure if i like them or not...But i don´t see no 
other advantage of eight AN-PLG boards in one rack than more voices 
at once with more patches (wohooo than you can play GM-Midi-
files...whoa...great...not...duh  *G* SCNR...j/k)

> I've also heard
> rumours about a generic programmable DSP board.
Figures...they want to compete (or have to??) with Creamwares Pulsar 
and Korgs OASYS.
But if Yamaha is doing it, it will probably do the same (and more) 
for half of the price...:)...I love Yamaha...
Hm...a programmable DSP board...this could mean a modular synth by 
Yamaha...hehehe...i´ll wait with the Elektra and watch what will 
happen 2001 or 2002.

Anyhow, thank you for the info, Peter. It´s nice to have someone 
with "vitamine b" (as germans used to say) on the list.

Regards, Tom

"...typical american..."All germans eat Sauerkraut"...yeaaaah 
riiight...Germany is a lot bigger than Bavaria..."

that thing i said thats what they call a "joke" here in America, ever hear of 
them>?

At 15:20 07/29/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>"...typical american..."All germans eat Sauerkraut"...yeaaaah
>riiight...Germany is a lot bigger than Bavaria..."
>
>that thing i said thats what they call a "joke" here in America, ever hear of
>them>?

Americans are ignorant, fat and stupid.
But they gave us Techno and the Internet (oh.. and Micro$oft, but that's a 
whole other story)

Also I'm trying to introduce 'Offtopic' subjects into this mailinglist. It 
makes selecting messages a lot easier. Esspecially for the guys and girls 
on this list who are not interested in smalltalk.
I know there are special mailinglists for chitchat (Teklabs Musicbar for 
instance) but hey, we are An1X users; share knowledge of the An1X but also 
share some fun.

R.




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From: <tomfinegan@...>


--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:
> > on a rackmount that houses no less than eight of these PLG boards.
> Hm...i may be conservative, but the appeal of these PLG boards never
> reached me. I am not sure if i like them or not...But i don\ufffdt see no
> other advantage of eight AN-PLG boards in one rack than more voices
> at once with more patches (wohooo than you can play GM-Midi-
> files...whoa...great...not...duh  *G* SCNR...j/k)

I think the idea behind PLG boards is that you have more control of what you
want of your synth. If you look at the subject of our devotion, the AN1x,
it's a very nice synth, but it has quite a few features that not everybody
may need. Notably, the keyboard comes to mind. It's probably the best
keyboard in it's price range, but if you already have a couple of keyboards
or just not enough space, it may not be worth it. How many times have people
said: "I wish there had been an AN1r"? (As a matter of fact, Yamaha had
developed it, but then they canned the project.)

So now, for about one fifth of the price, you can buy haf an AN1x. For the
moment, the number of host platforms is limited (CS6x/r, S30/80, SW1000,
MU128), but such a rack would be *very* interesting to me. And we've seen a
number of members who only have the PLG version of this synth, so I suppose
I'm not the only one.

The AN1x isn't discontinued, it just looks different. :)

And the most interesting Yamaha synthesis techniques - virtual accoustic,
virtual analogue, frequency modulation - are all available as a PLG board.
And more can be expected - I've heard rumour of a FS1r-like board (but
remember, this is rumour).

> > I've also heard
> > rumours about a generic programmable DSP board.
> Figures...they want to compete (or have to??) with Creamwares Pulsar
> and Korgs OASYS.

Actually, the PLG system is Yamaha's answer to soft synths. Yamaha's
strength lies in mass-production, not so much in building top-end material.

Mind you, they're perfectly capable of that: the very expensive VL1, the VP1
which was six times as expensive, and recently the PM1D digital live mixing
console.

Considering the Korg OASYS, that started out as a beautifully shaped
keyboard (like a Trinity, but than silver with black and a huge ribbon
controller) that was announced three times, but eventually we only saw the
spin-offs: Prophecy, Trinity, Z1, and now the PCI card.

Personally, I doubt that Yamaha themselves will come out with this
programmable DSP card. It's not in their line, after all. You would need a
development system and a whole new infrastructure that they don't have, or
are willing to support.

> But if Yamaha is doing it, it will probably do the same (and more)
> for half of the price...:)...I love Yamaha...

That PM1D is very expensive - way over US$ 50,000 I think - but that's
comparatively cheap. :)

> Hm...a programmable DSP board...this could mean a modular synth by
> Yamaha...hehehe...i\ufffdll wait with the Elektra and watch what will
> happen 2001 or 2002.

What is this Elektra?

> Anyhow, thank you for the info, Peter. It\ufffds nice to have someone
> with "vitamine b" (as germans used to say) on the list.

Da bin ich nun doch gespannt was damit gemeint sei. :)

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, angelphkt@a... wrote:
> "...typical american..."All germans eat Sauerkraut"...yeaaaah 
> riiight...Germany is a lot bigger than Bavaria..."
> 
> that thing i said thats what they call a "joke" here in America, 
ever hear of 
> them>?

Hey, sorry, i don´t wanted to offend you, i was just teasing, being 
sarcastic.  
Americans are like any other ppl on this planet. Most are anal, few 
are not. That´s life.

Peace?

Regards, Tom

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Roland van Oorschot <scout@t...> wrote:
> Americans are ignorant, fat and stupid.
LOL...yup they are...LOL..and Dutch eat cheese all the time, wear 
woodenshoes, produce tomatoes and salad-cucumbers with no taste, 
smoke tons of pots and always make holidays in trailers (in 
Germany...)

> But they gave us Techno and the Internet (oh.. and Micro$oft, but 
that's a 
> whole other story)
Hm..Techno? Are you sure? I always thought it came out of Germany 
originally? Expand my knowledge, please.

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:
> And we've seen a
> number of members who only have the PLG version of this synth, so I 
suppose
> I'm not the only one.
Ok, i agree, you convinced me. 
 
> The AN1x isn't discontinued, it just looks different. :)
LOL...poor AN1x...lost all his clothes...now running around naked..

> And the most interesting Yamaha synthesis techniques - virtual 
accoustic,
> virtual analogue, frequency modulation - are all available as a PLG 
board.
> And more can be expected - I've heard rumour of a FS1r-like board 
(but
> remember, this is rumour).
Hm, that would be great, if it´s true. But as long as there won´t be 
a working Editor for it also, editing the FSEQS (for PC, i mean) 
won´t still be possible.
  
> Actually, the PLG system is Yamaha's answer to soft synths. Yamaha's
> strength lies in mass-production, not so much in building top-end 
material.
Hm...answer to the soft synths? Sure? I would rather think their 
answer towards Roland´s and E-MU´s Plug-In boards/modules (Mo´Phatt 
etc.). Like the MU128 was the answer towards the Roland SC8850. But 
you are right though.

> Personally, I doubt that Yamaha themselves will come out with this
> programmable DSP card. It's not in their line, after all. You would 
need a
> development system and a whole new infrastructure that they don't 
have, or
> are willing to support.
Hm, the SW1000 and DSP Factory are not soo different from a 
programmable DSP card. And the AN1x is stripped down nothing else 
than that. But i don´t know so much about Yamaha´s internal company 
structure, so i can´t really say something about it.
I am just hopeing, and i can imagine they might do something in this 
direction. We´ll see.


> What is this Elektra?
Oh, it´s pretty much a "Light-Pulsar". You get a PCI-card with three 
SHARC-DSP´s on it, analog and digital ins and outs and a bunch of 
software, compatible towards the Pulsar Modular Softsynthesizer.
You know like a Nord Modular, without a keyboard and buttons and 
cables, but inside your PC.

Visit http://www.creamware.de or search on www.sonicstate.com (in the 
news) for more info.

> > Anyhow, thank you for the info, Peter. It´s nice to have someone
> > with "vitamine b" (as germans used to say) on the list.
> 
> Da bin ich nun doch gespannt was damit gemeint sei. :)
LOL...nichts gemeines...Vitamin B = Beziehungen, soll heißen, Du 
kennst jemanden der jemanden kennt, der einen Bekannten hat, der 
jemanden kennt, der bei Yamaha jemanden kennt und Du so deine 
Gerüchte zu hören bekommst.

> Does Japan has a Football team?
>
> Tom

Yes, they have. 12 teams (I'm not sure) in their first division. And their
national team defeated Brazil in the last Olympic Games.

PinheadX.

Japan-      Akai,Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kawaii
USA-        Oberheim, Arp, Moog, Peavey, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil
Sweden-     Nord lead
Germany-    Waldorf, PPG
UK-         Novation, EDP
Netherlands-Synton

Australia?
Denmark?

So we've heard how great your Soccer/Football team is.
How's your synth team doing ????


>> Phil, 
>> 
>> You Aussies produce some great wines.
> 
> And great actors and movies (Mel Gibson "Mad Max") oh and to make the
> swing back to AN1x, synthesizer, music in general....you brought us
> Kylie Minogue, who sucks in the 80´s but nowadays is kinda cool.
> 
> Tom

- let's not forget Australia's major synth band contribution of the 80's ...
PSEUDO-ECHO !!!!!  (not a joke- I loved their first album)



----------------------------------------
Speaking up for Americans (even though I'm a Texan)- some of us have
traveled outside the US- and realize we aren't the "World Champs" of sports
that we invent and play.
    Can you blame us after watching Iran kill us in the 1998 World cup?
Gotta feel good about something I guess.

Sorry for off topic :(

Japan-      Akai,Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kawaii
USA-        Oberheim, Arp, Moog, Peavey, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil
Sweden-     Nord lead
Japan-      Akai,Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kawaii
USA-        Oberheim, Arp, Moog, Peavey, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil
Sweden-     Nord lead
Germany-    Waldorf, PPG
UK-         Novation, EDP
Netherlands-Synton




and...



Australia -  "THE FAIRLIGHT"!!!!!!!!

Beat That! 

Cheers,
Phil :-)

On Topic Bit:

   After listening to some Net Patches- I've found a great percentage of
them are "stacked"- or 2 scenes sounding at once (limiting polyphony to 5
voices).
   Reminds me of Romplers that had "Wow" presets to sell themselves (the
multiple layers drowned in effects patches).
   Am I alone when I feel disappointed- hear a cool sound and then the
voices rob & cutoff horribly when I play it ?

    And--Why do they call them "scenes"? Wouldn't "layer" be more
appropriate?

gripe gripe gripe- just shoot me eh?


Off topic part:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
Australia -  "THE FAIRLIGHT"!!!!!!!!

Beat That! 

Cheers,
Phil :-)

I agree--Can't beat THE coolest Sampler of all time.

Which brings up a point- I guess my lame-ass list was old AND new synth
companies- as I respect an instrument's sound - not age.

And also- France- the RSF Kobol.

Todd :)

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, tspeer <tspeer@h...> wrote:
> Japan-      Akai,Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kawaii
> USA-        Oberheim, Arp, Moog, Peavey, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil
> Sweden-     Nord lead
> Germany-    Waldorf, PPG
> UK-         Novation, EDP
> Netherlands-Synton
What is Synton?

You forgot:

Germany: Waldorf(they bought PPG), Access, Jomox, Quasimidi, 
Creamware, and some softsynthproducers (I guess Emagic and Steinberg 
don´t count...)
Belgium: Sherman (Filterbank)

> - let's not forget Australia's major synth band contribution of the 
80's ...
> PSEUDO-ECHO !!!!!  (not a joke- I loved their first album)

Hm...who´s that`? They are still making music? Any
song-suggestions?

tomfinegan wrote:

>> Netherlands-Synton
> What is Synton?

A dutch company who made the Synton Modular synth and the Syrinx monosynth.
I can't remember the name of the company- but the Synton Modular was
re-released in the 90's under a different name (Doepher maybe??)

> You forgot:
> 
> Germany: Waldorf(they bought PPG), Access, Jomox, Quasimidi,
> Creamware, and some softsynthproducers (I guess Emagic and Steinberg
> don´t count...)
> Belgium: Sherman (Filterbank)

Good point (Didn't know that about Belgium)

> 
>> - let's not forget Australia's major synth band contribution of the
> 80's ...
>> PSEUDO-ECHO !!!!!  (not a joke- I loved their first album)
> 
> Hm...who´s that`? They are still making music? Any
> song-suggestions?

Australia's answer to Ultravox.
They were all over MTV in the USA in the 80's.
(Their first album- Autumnal Park is the only one worth a listen)-
songs:

Listening
His eyes

At 09:53 08/04/2000 -0500, you wrote:


>tomfinegan wrote:
>
> >> Netherlands-Synton
> > What is Synton?
>
>A dutch company who made the Synton Modular synth and the Syrinx monosynth.
>I can't remember the name of the company- but the Synton Modular was
>re-released in the 90's under a different name (Doepher maybe??)

More dutch synthcompanies:

Cirko, creators of the Hound synth (http://www.cirko.com/)
Syntecno, creators of the *best* TB303 clone (http://www.xs4all.nl/~syntecno/)

Greetz,
Roland

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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, tspeer <tspeer@h...> wrote:
> A dutch company who made the Synton Modular synth and the Syrinx 
monosynth.
> I can't remember the name of the company- but the Synton Modular was
> re-released in the 90's under a different name (Doepher maybe??)
Oh you mean Doepfer (www.doepfer.de)...the synth-company with the 
worst looking website...LOL

I will look for Pseudo-echo...some MP3´s around?

Regards, Tom