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hi

actually, I'm trying to use K3edit for the user wave made out of
partials, but the fact that you don't know the shape of the waveform
is a let down...
graphical rendering of the waveform shape would be vital imho...

about Dr.T's KCS: I never used it; what would be the benefits?
has it got an additive synthesis engine? 

greetings

Fabio

--- In atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com, Leighton Cooper
<methodman3000@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry If you want to download caged artist K3 and it has the
harmonic series.  The K3 will let you pick 32 of the harmonics out of
128.  Look at the editor librarians on steem.  Most of the K3 sounds
are electric piano forms.  But I feel the same effect from vst run
through a nice speaker system with the eq's adjusted.  I use Orion or
Sonar.  But every program is good and cheap.  Especially if you are a
student.  They offer student discounts.  The K3 has a master button
and you have to kick that on to adjust the master functions.  Run it
up into Dr T's Caged Artist K3 or the GenEdit and it should work for
you.  
> 
> I also own Reason and am creating a general midi bank on Subtractor
basing many of my ideas off the K3.  But their own examples are more
weak than the Crow Blue examples which sound so much like a K3
including the chorus parameters along with the LF0 and it's strange
shapes.  
> 
> I learned to program on that instrument.  But the sounds can be
recreated on subtractor probably pretty easily.  With good eq I can
have the whole kb shine all the way up the 5 octaves.
> 
> On Steem I really had stability issues trying to use the mpe
environment.  By the time I figured out how they worked.  I knew how
the modern programs worked.  So I switched.  They were complicated. 
But  You can make anything.
> 
> Have you tried KCS Lvl II  That is like a Musical Mathematica.  But
you might check out Kcs 4.0 but load in level 2 with PVG and Master
Editor.  Very deep 
> 
> Lots of Luck
> 
> Leighton
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> To: atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:53:31 AM
> Subject: [atari-midi-archives] Re: K3's additive user wave and
harmonic partials
> 
> that doesn't answer my question at all...
> 
> also, I think a real analog filter beats soft-o-crap any time.
> 
> --- In atari-midi-archives @yahoogroups. com, "Leighton"
> <methodman3000@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In atari-midi-archives @yahoogroups. com, "somethingkillingyo u" 
> > <somethingkillingyo u@> wrote:
> > >Hi Fabio,
> > I owned a K3, K1 and K5 . The K3 is good for learning the 
> > parameters of what a synthesizer does. There is a button for every 
> > function. Beyond that softsynths take its place. I gave mine away 
> > to someone with small kids, because it great for learning about 
> > syntesizer sound making. It is not multi-timberal. Has small number 
> > of routings. Very fixed routings and Crow Music has created an 
> > instrument sounding exactly like what its gifts were called the Blue 
> > crow.;that is virtual. So I can use several different sounding K3. 
> > If you know how to think like a programmer, Why keep it? It's 
> > outdated. The additive synthesis is explained by using Reaktor. 
> > Samplers have developed so far. The help and tutorials to learn 
> > things are cheap. I am subscribing to VTC.com for $250 a year and I 
> > have access to about 35 different online Audio classes, in addition 
> > photoshop, illustrator that it is cheap to become an expert in 
> > anything now. So unless you are a newbie or have kids the K3 is not 
> > that hot.
> > 
> > Leighton
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi there
> > > 
> > > I'm new here, so here's my first question :)
> > > 
> > > I got a Kawai K3; you know this old synth has an additive user wave
> > > that you can determine by setting 32 harmonic partials 'non zero
> > > value' (1-31) choosable between the first 128 harmonic partials (the
> > > other 96 harmonics, unused, are 0 value by default)...
> > > 
> > > of course, I'm using Dr.T's K3edit to have a quick access to it 
> > (thank
> > > you!)...
> > > 
> > > I'd like to use it correctly but I've no idea what I'm doing: the
> > > problem is that you cannot "see" the shape of the waveform with the
> > > program...
> > > 
> > > is there an application that could help on this. i.e. a software 
> > that
> > > lets you tweak at least 32 partials out of 128 (the more the better)
> > > showing you the wave-shape so that you know what you're doing?
> > > 
> > > also, starting from some samples and isolating a single complete
> > > oscillation of the waveform you wanna reproduce (more or less
> > > complex), is it possible to know which harmonic partials have been
> > > used and their (approssimative) value?
> > > 
> > > I have a pc, but I'm using STeem, so softwares of both platforms are
> > > welcome...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > greetings
> > > 
> > > Fabio
> > >
> >
>