AVR-Chat

At 02:27 AM 3/05/2014, you wrote:
>So nobody can comment on how bad AS6 is compared to any free IDEs 
>available from/for other manufacturers?

Well I can comment on the PE Micro's Motorola development
system for the 68HC11, the DOS version (20+ years ago) was
usable, I could do everything I needed to do including emulation
and ran on a 33-66MHz AT machine.

Then when my computer became faster (233Mhz) the DOS version no
longer worked (remember the 200MHz bug?? ), PE micro were kind enough
to give my a free Windows version. I could do everything I needed
to do including emulation and ran on a 233MHz+ machine.

I started to get annoyed with Motorola, started looking around and
used MPLAB (4 or 5??) with PICs for about a year. I could do everything
I needed to do including emulation and ran on a 800MHz?? machine.

Got fed up with PICs and started to use AVR with Studio 3, I could do
everything I needed to do including emulation and ran on a 1GHz?? machine.
AS4.0 came out, it was a disaster until maybe V4.08, then it started to be
useable. I could do everything I needed to do including emulation and ran
on a 1GHz and 1.8GHz?? machine. Still using the very stable AS4.18 on a
2.8GHz machine Win XP with 3GB of RAM, starts up in a few seconds. I can do
everything I need to do including emulation, but not the very new chips.
Download at about 100MB.

AS6 came out, NO WAY I can run it on this machine, download at about 800MB.
Got a new modest laptop just for a AS6, 2,7GHz, WIN7 64 bits, 6 MB RAM, no
solid state HDD.

AS4.18 start up in less than 5 seconds, AS6.1 45 to 90 seconds.
When it eventually starts I can SORT OF do everything I need to do including
emulation, (used for just just one project, everything else AS4.18) unless
the latest upgrades breaks my tools, need to revert to an older firmware, wait
until somebody finds a work-around, it fills up my disk with junk I don't need
or want like a useless Software Framework (for the AVRs I use), a 32bit and
ARM tool-chains and a lot of other stuff which slows me down as it 
tries to take
over my job etc. which may slow down operation.

Got the drift so far? In 20+ years things have grown monstrously huge but not
really doing any more than what I did 20 years ago except hog system resources.

Messed around with LPCXpresso (V5.2 currently), download at about 
200MB. It runs
on this computer, (2.8GHz machine Win XP as above). I can do 
everything I needed
to do including emulation once I got my head around the new IDE and 
the way ARM does
things at least to a minimal level.

I have also used demo versions of ImageCraft and Codevision C 
compilers, lately I
have been messing around with BASCOM. I can do everything I needed .........

Ok that's enough :-)



Regards

John Samperi

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