> For some reason the original post hasn't shown up here yet. The vagaries > of Yahoo and e-mail I expect. In any case this circuit will not work. It > also strikes me as too complex but that's a separate issue. > > - Problem 1: > Unless there is a couple of invertors you haven't drawn then what > you have is a single 1/2 H with two FETs in parallel tied to both sides of > the load (your motor). The only way the motor gets current is if the FETs > don't turn on at the same time when commanded to. Given the lack of gate > resistors oscillation between the FETs is a possibility. > > - Problem 2: > None of the Buz11's have sufficient drive voltage, unless your > CMOS buffer is a quadruple high side FET driver. That seems > unlikely. From an earlier post I believe you had a simple logic chip in > there. > > I believe you are on a pretty tight schedule. The easiest way to solve > your problem maybe to use relays instead of FETs to provide the H-bridge > part of your design. I can do up a quick schematic to give you a direction > if you would like. You would then still use the K2232 for speed > control. You could probably find automotive relays with sufficient > capabilities. They would be large than the FETs but a lot of the drive > problems would be gone. It would be a simple circuit to hook up. > > > Otherwise you need to do a complete re-design of the drive circuitry. I'd > use four high side drivers (IR2125s come to mind) and probably some charge > pump circuitry to maintain the gate voltage. Actually if I was doing that > much work I'd eliminate the K2232 and use a pair of 1/2H driver like the > 2110 and as long as you don't require a full 100% in either direction no > additional charge pump circuit would be required. I'd really recommend you > go the relay route and then look at an all MOSFET version after you get a > relay version working if you still want to. > > I suspect you also need a supply for you gate drive. You want 10 - 15V for > that and if you are driving off of CMOS logic you probably only have 5V > > Robert > > " 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself. There are always restrictions, > be they legal, genetic, or physical. If you don't believe me, try to > chew a radio signal. " > > Kelvin Throop, III > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > Get unlimited calls to > > U.S./Canada > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVR-Chat/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AVR-Chat-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. I actually was using relays originally but the ones we could find couldn't deal with the current and welded quickly. relooking at my drawing i agree that the gates are paired wrong, i do have it built correctly, must have been caught as i soldered it together. i am going to prototype the circuit using higher voltage on the gates, we both thought that the mosfets would work on 5 volts or higher but looking at the datasheet again it makes sense although i have also done circuity on another vehicle using only the k2232's using 5 volts on the gate successfully but with out pwm and with out an h bridge. using the oscilloscope i have noticed some noise coming out of the buffer that may be turning on all four h bridge transistors partially, about 1.5 volts at roughly my PWM frequency. Well i am going to have dinner and try it out using some small npn transistors suppling higer voltage to the gates, by the way: the data sheets: BUZ11's http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/BU/BUZ11.pdf the buffer: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/cd74hct244.pdf the odyssey of the mind website if any one is curious: www.odysseyofthemind.com thanks for all the help so far Ben Matthews
Message
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Motor Control Problems - more info
2005-02-19 by Ben Matthews
Attachments
- No local attachments were found for this message.