Given that this is an AVR forum, not a PIC one, let me plug a product that I have found very useful: BASCOM. A free 4k limit compiler is available and supports most AVR chips. The BASIC dialect is plenty powerful, lots of library support (LCD, one wire, switches, AT keyboard, graphics displays, etc) and runs circles around anything Parallax has to offer. Full support (some specialized libraries and 128k limit) is $60, but I have never run out of space (granted I only use it for small quick projects). Start at www.mcselec.com <http://www.mcselec.com/> Bascom is an editor, compiler, downloader and a limited simulator. The current crop of AVR chips come with a calibrated 1mhz internal oscillator (most can easily be bumped to 8mhz and some to 16mhz) so literally a no-parts (other than the chip, power and the programming cable which is little more than a cut up line printer cable) development environment can be put together for a couple of $$. A mega16 is $6.50 in singles, run it off of three AAA batteries; spend a little extra on a breadboard, some LEDs and switches and resisters. How cheap can you get?? ----------- Larry Barello www.barello.net _____ From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of techy fellow Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:06 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: (OT) PICAXE Another easy-to-use MCU you can consider is, the SX family distributed by Parallax (used to be from Ubicom). I suspect Parallax is trying to set a difference between their expensive part (read, premium), Basic Stamp family and a low cost version (SX). You will be surprise, SX is quite powerful. The only caveat is, you have to buy their proprietary SX chip-programmer, the SX-Key (SX Tech Tool Kit PLUS). Its USD 99.00. But the number of parts in the package and plus a BASIC compiler that comes free, I think , it value for money. I compared it with a good Basic program for the PIC which can cost up to a few hundreds of $ ! As for the SX chips, it cost only a few $ each. Best of all, Parallax is selling 2 high quality SX protoboards for a mere USD 9.95 each ! Great for projects but does require the SX-Key though. Check out their web site ( www.parallax.com ) PS: I am not in any way related to Parallax. In fact, I quite dislike them due to their high priced BS until they lunched the SX. But then again, I vote with my $. cheers, upand_at_them <upand_at_them@yahoo.com> wrote: I've used PICAXEs. They're pretty cool. A nice, cheaper alternative to BASIC Stamps. I don't use them anymore, because I'm much better at programming PICs now and PICAXEs, of course, have limitations and overhead. I would definitely recommend them for schools, though. The cost is like 1/4 of what Stamps are. Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Avr <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Avr+microcontroller&w1=Avr+microcontrol ler&w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&w4=8051+microprocessor&c=4&s =98&.sig=g86_HKNqER2uDVjW9k5qxA> microcontroller Microcontrollers <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microcontrollers&w1=Avr+microcontroller &w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&w4=8051+microprocessor&c=4&s=98 &.sig=oFcL4RTYUPZgTb9KnRA0qg> Pic <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pic+microcontrollers&w1=Avr+microcontro ller&w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&w4=8051+microprocessor&c=4& s=98&.sig=uoydrrm9rLXWB_bzKsqX6g> microcontrollers 8051 <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=8051+microprocessor&w1=Avr+microcontrol ler&w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&w4=8051+microprocessor&c=4&s =98&.sig=F6bcXXU2SOtJ5tDcWnBGRQ> microprocessor _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "AVR-Chat <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVR-Chat> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AVR-Chat-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: (OT) PICAXE
2005-09-20 by Larry Barello
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