AVR-Chat

On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 03:04 +0200, Ralph Hilton wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:40:38 -0500 you wrote:
> >On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 20:07 -0700, Larry Barello wrote:
> >> Given that this is an AVR forum, not a PIC one, let me plug a
> product
> >> that I have found very useful:  BASCOM.  A free 4k limit compiler
> is available and supports most AVR chips. 
> >  Only problem is I have never succeeded in getting anything to
> >compile in BASCM-AVR.   Has some strange syntactical requirements for
> >declaring variables, apparently.
> I did contemplate Bascom when I started with AVRs. For me the quality,
> friendliness and helpfulness of support was important. I joined a few
> lists. I found the Bascom list unfriendly and somewhat dominated by
> characters I found distasteful.

  AMEN to that!  The BASCOM-AVR channel appears, like so many of the IRC
technical support chasnnles, to be primarily populated by teeneaged
dopes who seem to think that anyone who doesn't unbderstand what THEY
(think) they understand is a complete moron and a worthless individual.

>  In contrast the CVAVR list was friendly, helpful and supportive. The
> ICCAVR list also seemed to be a helpful place. I haven't found Basic
> to be a particularly versatile language and avoid it whenever
> possible. As things stand I don't see an alternative to C/C++ . If
> there were a decent and inexpensive Forth compiler available I would
> probably have gone for that as I love screwing up my brain cells with
> RPN and still use my antique and beloved HP11C and HP16C
> calculators.

  *ACK* RPN!  I got more than enough experience with RPN when writing
compilers.  It isn't natural.   *grin*  (RPN ::=  Rarely Natural
Notation)

   Seriously, I am a fan of C (though not so much of C++, at least, not
for embedded code).  I have to confess to a liking for assembler for
embedded projects, but I suspect that is more because I enjoy bit
twiddling and getting down and dirty with the hardware, than anything
else.  *grin*

tom