yay~ success! the motors are in motion. the current set-up is to drive the motors using signed magnitude, with the pwm into the enable. now i can drive both motors individually [:D] now the next step: connecting the IR sensor... [:-?] more reading www.barello.net <http://www.barello.net> - those dilberts are cool! but yeah, thx for all your help guys~ otherwise those motors prolli still wouldnt moving =P --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Clark <dlc@...> wrote: > > That is true about the glitch, I had a tendency to do a "one wire" > approach and just enable the bridge, that enable will eliminate the > glitch. When playing with LA I didn't see high currents, I just noted > that it was the _same_ current no matter what the motor speed was. I > did like the responsiveness of LA over SM though you do lose some of the > resolution, all things kept the same, but you didn't have that low > magnitude "dead band" on start up either. All things in trade off. > > DLC > > Larry Barello wrote: > > Dennis: Solving the glitch problem was the intended use for the ENABLE line > > (and coasting). If you are seeing large current draw with LA then your PWM > > rate is way too slow. That is the big problem with LA, IMO, is that pwm > > rates of 60-120khz are needed with small, low inductance motors. > > > > On my paper, www.barello.net/Papers/Motion_Control I relate the difference > > between cheap aircraft servo motors (gutted) and high quality coreless (I > > think) MAXON printer motors with PWM @ 15khz (TI 754410): The cheap motors > > with iron cores had ~15ma peak to peak ripple while the MAXON motors had > > 150ma - about 1/2 the stall current! > > > > So, it all depends (as usual)... > > > > My other presentation (H-Bridge.pdf) has some graphs and pictorial > > descriptions of what is happening with the current in an H-Bridge driven > > motor situation. > > > > In my experience, Synchronous-rectification (i.e. driving the motors > > on-shorted) gives similar responsiveness and linearity as the LA approach, > > with the advantage of 1/2 the ripple. > > > > If your hardware (or s/w) is very clever, you can alternate the side of the > > H-Bridge doing the rectification (shorting) from cycle to cycle to double > > the switching frequency seen by the inductance for a given PWM rate and cut > > your ripple in half again. That requires a PWM for each side and adjusting > > the phase between them to adjust the duty cycle. > > > > Cheers! > > > > ----------- > > Larry Barello > > www.barello.net > > > > > > | -----Original Message----- > > | From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > > | Of Dennis Clark > > | Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:49 AM > > | To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > > | Subject: Re: [QUARANTINE] [AVR-Chat] Re: PWM for reversible DC motors > > | > > | Any H-bridge (usually) can be drived locked antiphase. My biggest > > | problem with locked-antiphase is power up glitch. You have to have the > > | PWM at the center duty cycle or the motors turn. Which means that when > > | you start up and your line is low, your motor takes off full bore until > > | the PWM comes on. The other problem I have with locked antiphase is > > | that you pull the same current no matter what the motor speed, this is > > | wasteful of power on a battery powered system. I have seen that locked > > | antiphase is MUCH more responsive to PWM change. > > | > > | DLC > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------- > Dennis Clark TTT Enterprises > --------------------------------------- > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[QUARANTINE] [AVR-Chat] Re: PWM for reversible DC motors
2006-08-29 by katraven1
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