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A keygen to do what exactly?  To steal someone's software?

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, jay marante <jaythesis@y...> wrote:

> Theres lot of C Compilers. Theres iccavr which i
> currently used. You can find keygens at the internet
> for license. :) -jay

Theres lot of C Compilers. Theres iccavr which i
currently used. You can find keygens at the internet
for license. :) -jay
--- dkinzer@easystreet.com <dkinzer@easystreet.com>
wrote:
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Davies"
<YahooGroups@e...> 
> wrote:
> > I'm just starting out with the AVR. I bought an
STK500, STK501 and 
> > two ATmega64s from DigiKey. AVR Studio is
described by Atmel as an 
> > Integrated Development Environment and I expected
that in 
> conjuction 
> > with the STKs I would be all set. However, unless
I'm missing 
> > something, there is no C compiler and no means of
debugging actual 
> > hardware. It seems I need to go out and spend more
money on a C 
> > compiler (or struggle with GCC) and also on
another piece of 
> hardware 
> > such as JTAGICE. Is this right? Is there really no
compiler in AVR 
> > Studio? Is there really no means of debugging a
program on the 
> > hardware without another adapter?
> 
> I bought a STK500 from DigiKey as well.  The
description that I read 
> didn't say anything about a C compiler or any other
high level 
> language.  My assumption was that the IDE supported
AVR assembly 
> language development.  It turns out that that's
true.
> 
> I'm using WinAVR to do C development.  Well,
actually, I'm using 
> parts of it.  I use a programmer's editor that I've
been using for 
> years and hooked up the various parts of WinAVR to
make my own IDE 
> within the editor.  Click to compiler and link. 
Click to download.  
> WinAVR comes with its own programmer's editor that
can be similarly 
> configured.
> 
> While debugging is probably easier in some cases
using some sort of 
> in-circuit emulator, I've not found it particularly
difficult to 
> debug without one.  I normally use debug print
statements, a logic 
> probe, a multi-meter and, occasionally, an
oscilloscope.  A logic 
> analyzer might be helpful for particularly difficult
problems, even 
> if you have an ICE.
> 
> 



	
		
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to license your software. i guess that's stealing! hehe...

upand_at_them <upand_at_them@yahoo.com> wrote:A keygen to do what exactly?  To steal someone's software?

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, jay marante <jaythesis@y...> wrote:
> Theres lot of C Compilers. Theres iccavr which i
> currently used. You can find keygens at the internet
> for license. :) -jay




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but I bet the vendor monitors this list and will be taking a close 
look at our friend...  heh heh heh.

maybe there's an intelligence test in there somewhere.

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn <dvanhorn@c...> wrote:
> At 09:37 PM 4/22/2004 -0700, mpdickens wrote:
> 
> >I Participate on this list as a software/hardware
> >developer and find the suggestion of stealing software
> >(Or anything, for that matter...) to be disgusting. 
> >
> >What is the position of the list owner of this group
> >regarding the exchange of this type of information? 
> 
> Not favorable.  I didn't expect he'd find the waters very friendly 
here.

I Participate on this list as a software/hardware
developer and find the suggestion of stealing software
(Or anything, for that matter...) to be disgusting. 

What is the position of the list owner of this group
regarding the exchange of this type of information? 


Marvin Dickens
Isi, Inc.
Alpharetta, Georiga USA

> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, jay marante
> <jaythesis@y...> wrote:
> > Theres lot of C Compilers. Theres iccavr which i
> > currently used. You can find keygens at the
> internet
> > for license. :) -jay
> 
> 
> 


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At 09:37 PM 4/22/2004 -0700, mpdickens wrote:

>I Participate on this list as a software/hardware
>developer and find the suggestion of stealing software
>(Or anything, for that matter...) to be disgusting. 
>
>What is the position of the list owner of this group
>regarding the exchange of this type of information? 

Not favorable.  I didn't expect he'd find the waters very friendly here.

Maybe the best thing for our friend to do is not to
advertise the fact that he's using warez.  Besides which, I
read on slashdot that a whole bunch of warez sites were shut
down yesterday.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <phil1960us@yahoo.com>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 06:57
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: STK500, STK501 & AVR Studio not a
complete environment


> but I bet the vendor monitors this list and will be taking
a close
> look at our friend...  heh heh heh.
>
> maybe there's an intelligence test in there somewhere.
>
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn
<dvanhorn@c...> wrote:
> > At 09:37 PM 4/22/2004 -0700, mpdickens wrote:
> >
> > >I Participate on this list as a software/hardware
> > >developer and find the suggestion of stealing software
> > >(Or anything, for that matter...) to be disgusting.
> > >
> > >What is the position of the list owner of this group
> > >regarding the exchange of this type of information?
> >
> > Not favorable.  I didn't expect he'd find the waters
very friendly

> here.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpdickens [mailto:md30022@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 23 April 2004 12:37 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: STK500, STK501 & AVR Studio not a 
> complete environment
> 
> 
> I Participate on this list as a software/hardware
> developer and find the suggestion of stealing software
> (Or anything, for that matter...) to be disgusting. 
> 
> What is the position of the list owner of this group
> regarding the exchange of this type of information? 
> 
> 
> Marvin Dickens
> Isi, Inc.
> Alpharetta, Georiga USA

As list owner, I was going to ban the person, but as this is an
internationally list and the person has a freedom of speech. I think if
the manufacturer IAR systems chooses to prosecute then fine.

I will say publicly as an engineer, I find the use of illegal software
to be disgusting, even when it is a large company. BUT sometimes you
have to use a "borrowed" version of software to properly test it out, I
had a design that I wanted to test in Eagle, to see how well it compared
to Protel 99SE, but the manufacturer did not want to give me a license
to try the professional version (the PCB was 200mm wide by 400mm long 4
layer). So they have lost the sale, if I could have found a professional
version to borrow to try the design, then fine I may have liked it and
chosen to change. So I can see the point of view from both sides of the
fence. 

Who knows, One day I may buy Eagle, but right now Protel 99SE works for
the designs I do, and I have invested a lot of time creating custom
footprints and components (hmm not many more AVR's to put in now ;o) But
with the free Version of Eagle being limited to double sided and 3" x 4"
it is not a true test.

Regards,

Kat.

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>
>Who knows, One day I may buy Eagle, but right now Protel 99SE works for
>the designs I do, and I have invested a lot of time creating custom
>footprints and components (hmm not many more AVR's to put in now ;o) But
>with the free Version of Eagle being limited to double sided and 3" x 4"
>it is not a true test.

The current version of Orcad works nicely on their demo boards. 
When you start working on your own boards, then the warts come out in droves.

I've heard good things about Eagle.