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Hi Robert,

My first choice would be form the PCB board assembly house to provide
the parts (turn-key) but if it's going to cost an arm and a leg then I
can provide the parts.  Can you tell us the company that was able to
assemble the boards inexpensively?

Thanks,

Richard Cooke
Lake Forest, CA USA

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Robert Adsett <subscriptions@...> wrote:
>
> Sending again.  I think I'm getting filtered out.  For some reason my 
> latest posts haven't been making it through.
> 
> At 12:27 AM 3/8/2008 +0000, Richard Cooke wrote:
> >Hi Folks,
> >
> >Is there a rule of thumb for estimating the cost of getting circuit
> >boards assembled?  I have a board that is about 1" x 1" with 25
> >surface mount parts - most of these are standard 0603 resistors and
> >caps.  Does anybody know what a per part cost I might be able to use
> >for estimating the cost if I'm going to get 500 to 1000 of these made?
> >Any guesses?
> >
> >I got one official quote for $19.50 each which almost made me fall off
> >my chair.  The 500 piece cost for the electonic parts from Digi-key is
> >about $4.20 so asking for $15.30/ea $500 qty) to put the parts on the
> >boards seems excessive.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Who's suppling the parts? You or them?
>     If it's them, do they dedicate parts to each customer?  How good
are 
> your part specs?  Do they suggest substitutions of parts they order in 
> quantity.
>          If they do or if you have parts that aren't common then you
may 
> end up buying full reels even if you only use a few parts.
> 
> Is the tooling and setup broken out separately.
> 
> For turnkey setups (they supply parts) I've had cost quoted that had
the 
> stuffing cost + more than I would pay for the parts. The reasoning
given is 
> that they are providing inventory management and sourceing
functions.  I've 
> also had quotes for a completed stuffed board for less than what it
would 
> cost me to get in the parts.
> 
> Robert
> 
> >
> 
> 
>  From the Divided by a Common Language File (Edited to protect the
guilty)
> ME - "I'd like to get Price and delivery for connector Part # XXXXX"
> Dist./Rep - "$X.XX Lead time 37 days"
> ME - "Anything we can do about lead time?  37 days seems a bit high."
> Dist./Rep - "that is the lead time given because our stock is
live.... we 
> currently have stock."
>

Sending again.  I think I'm getting filtered out.  For some reason my 
latest posts haven't been making it through.

At 12:27 AM 3/8/2008 +0000, Richard Cooke wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>Is there a rule of thumb for estimating the cost of getting circuit
>boards assembled?  I have a board that is about 1" x 1" with 25
>surface mount parts - most of these are standard 0603 resistors and
>caps.  Does anybody know what a per part cost I might be able to use
>for estimating the cost if I'm going to get 500 to 1000 of these made?
>Any guesses?
>
>I got one official quote for $19.50 each which almost made me fall off
>my chair.  The 500 piece cost for the electonic parts from Digi-key is
>about $4.20 so asking for $15.30/ea $500 qty) to put the parts on the
>boards seems excessive.
>
>Any ideas?


Who's suppling the parts? You or them?
    If it's them, do they dedicate parts to each customer?  How good are 
your part specs?  Do they suggest substitutions of parts they order in 
quantity.
         If they do or if you have parts that aren't common then you may 
end up buying full reels even if you only use a few parts.

Is the tooling and setup broken out separately.

For turnkey setups (they supply parts) I've had cost quoted that had the 
stuffing cost + more than I would pay for the parts. The reasoning given is 
that they are providing inventory management and sourceing functions.  I've 
also had quotes for a completed stuffed board for less than what it would 
cost me to get in the parts.

Robert

>


 From the Divided by a Common Language File (Edited to protect the guilty)
ME - "I'd like to get Price and delivery for connector Part # XXXXX"
Dist./Rep - "$X.XX Lead time 37 days"
ME - "Anything we can do about lead time?  37 days seems a bit high."
Dist./Rep - "that is the lead time given because our stock is live.... we 
currently have stock."

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cooke" <rcooke@...> wrote:
> Can you tell us the company that was able to
> assemble the boards inexpensively?

Here are the five best quotes (out of 12), in no particular order.  
The other quotes were at least twice that of the highest quote of 
this group.

Hi-Tek Electronics
Salem, OR
www.hitekquality.com

SMT Northwest
Portland, OR
www.smtnw.com

Circuit Manufacturing
Wilsonville, OR
www.circuitmanufacturing.com

Ornelas Enterprises
Hillsboro, OR
www.oeiassembly.com

Axiom Electronics
Beaverton, OR
www.axiomsmt.com

I visited and got a tour of the facilities of all but the last one.  
I wouldn't hesitate to do business with any of the ones that I 
visited.  That's not intended to disparage Axiom - I just didn't 
visit their facility.  They all had similar equipment and 
facilities.  At each facility, I saw job tags with the names of well 
known (to me, least) companies for whom they were apparently doing 
work.

I intend to supply the parts for assembly - they call that 
a "consignment job" as opposed to "turnkey".  Since they are all 
relatively nearby, I can deliver the parts and pick up the finished 
product.  I plan to use SMT Northwest and I should have at least a 
partial delivery of finished boards before the end of the month.

Don Kinzer

I have used boards made by SMT and the quality and turnaround time is good.

-----Original Message-----
From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Don Kinzer
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:37 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: OT- circuit board assembly question?

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cooke" <rcooke@...> wrote:
> Can you tell us the company that was able to
> assemble the boards inexpensively?

Here are the five best quotes (out of 12), in no particular order.  
The other quotes were at least twice that of the highest quote of 
this group.

Hi-Tek Electronics
Salem, OR
www.hitekquality.com

SMT Northwest
Portland, OR
www.smtnw.com

Circuit Manufacturing
Wilsonville, OR
www.circuitmanufacturing.com

Ornelas Enterprises
Hillsboro, OR
www.oeiassembly.com

Axiom Electronics
Beaverton, OR
www.axiomsmt.com

I visited and got a tour of the facilities of all but the last one.  
I wouldn't hesitate to do business with any of the ones that I 
visited.  That's not intended to disparage Axiom - I just didn't 
visit their facility.  They all had similar equipment and 
facilities.  At each facility, I saw job tags with the names of well 
known (to me, least) companies for whom they were apparently doing 
work.

I intend to supply the parts for assembly - they call that 
a "consignment job" as opposed to "turnkey".  Since they are all 
relatively nearby, I can deliver the parts and pick up the finished 
product.  I plan to use SMT Northwest and I should have at least a 
partial delivery of finished boards before the end of the month.

Don Kinzer




 
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