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At 12:20 AM 18/03/2008, you wrote:
>This thread, and its originator, have been terminated.

hmmm a "suicide spammer"...

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> hmmm a "suicide spammer"...

I did warn him, since he had also posted arguably related content earlier.

Generally, we require membership to be approved, and then they are
moderated until we see that they are posting appropriate content,
before they can directly post to the list.  That's why you guys see
almost zero spam here.

Pretty much the same idea over at the AVRClub group.  I know it doesn't 
get as much activity as this one, but there is some activity. Spammers 
try to get in.  Everyone is moderated at first and after someone has 
posted a few AVR-related messages, one of us two moderators eventually 
gets around to taking them off moderation. Very little spam gets through 
there, either.

Zack

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, David VanHorn wrote:

>> hmmm a "suicide spammer"...
>
> I did warn him, since he had also posted arguably related content earlier.
>
> Generally, we require membership to be approved, and then they are
> moderated until we see that they are posting appropriate content,
> before they can directly post to the list.  That's why you guys see
> almost zero spam here.
>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 05:22:43PM -0400, David VanHorn wrote:
> > hmmm a "suicide spammer"...
> 
> I did warn him, since he had also posted arguably related content
> earlier.
> 
> Generally, we require membership to be approved, and then they are
> moderated until we see that they are posting appropriate content,
> before they can directly post to the list.  That's why you guys see
> almost zero spam here.

You mean this isn't the proper place to argue which side of the bread to
butter? Or whether a PCB should be soldered from the top with a hand
held soldering iron, or from the bottom as with a solder wave?  :-)

Clearly we must be infidels if we don't solder from The One True Side,
even worse if we routinely solder from which ever side is convenient.

-- 
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

I have often wondered if you could use an AVR to control the speed of the 
infamous cat-and-butter motor.  Since buttered bread always falls buttered 
side down, and cats always land on their feet, if you strap a piece of 
buttered bread to a cat's back (butter facing up) and drop him, the two 
laws cancel each other and the cat hovers spinning above the floor. Add a 
shaft and you can get real power out!

There must be a way to control the speed.
:-)

Zack

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, David Kelly wrote:

>
> You mean this isn't the proper place to argue which side of the bread to
> butter? Or whether a PCB should be soldered from the top with a hand
> held soldering iron, or from the bottom as with a solder wave?  :-)
>

Every time I tried to build one of those, I got horribly scratched by  
the cat when I tried to insert the shaft.

Please send me a method in detail, suitable to submitting as a end of  
term project, for how it should be done.

On Mar 17, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Zack Widup wrote:

>
> I have often wondered if you could use an AVR to control the speed  
> of the
> infamous cat-and-butter motor.  Since buttered bread always falls  
> buttered
> side down, and cats always land on their feet, if you strap a piece of
> buttered bread to a cat's back (butter facing up) and drop him, the  
> two
> laws cancel each other and the cat hovers spinning above the floor.  
> Add a
> shaft and you can get real power out!
>
> There must be a way to control the speed.
> :-)
>
> Zack
>
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, David Kelly wrote:
>
>>
>> You mean this isn't the proper place to argue which side of the  
>> bread to
>> butter? Or whether a PCB should be soldered from the top with a hand
>> held soldering iron, or from the bottom as with a solder wave?  :-)
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Do you want schematics, pc board artwork, mechanical drawings, with CAM 
files, an operator's manual, service instructions, and code?  If so, 
we'll need:

1.  Schematic capture file format requirement.
       a. Do you also need spice models?
2.  Same for pc board artwork.
3.  Do you want mechanical drawings in native AutoCAD format or some other?
4.  CAM file format, G-code files too?
5.  What language do you want code written in?
       C?  Assembler?  Basic?  PASCAL? FORTRAN? COBOL?  Wire wrap?

We need to know these things before we can help Philippe.

Do you also need instructions for handling the cat?

You know, we're going to keep this up and people are going to start 
thinking we're a bunch of smartalecs.


REB




Philippe Habib wrote:

> Every time I tried to build one of those, I got horribly scratched by  
> the cat when I tried to insert the shaft.
>
> Please send me a method in detail, suitable to submitting as a end of  
> term project, for how it should be done.
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Zack Widup wrote:
>
>   
>> I have often wondered if you could use an AVR to control the speed  
>> of the
>> infamous cat-and-butter motor.  Since buttered bread always falls  
>> buttered
>> side down, and cats always land on their feet, if you strap a piece of
>> buttered bread to a cat's back (butter facing up) and drop him, the  
>> two
>> laws cancel each other and the cat hovers spinning above the floor.  
>> Add a
>> shaft and you can get real power out!
>>
>> There must be a way to control the speed.
>> :-)
>>
>> Zack
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, David Kelly wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> You mean this isn't the proper place to argue which side of the  
>>> bread to
>>> butter? Or whether a PCB should be soldered from the top with a hand
>>> held soldering iron, or from the bottom as with a solder wave?  :-)
>>>
>>>

Well, it apparently hasn't been patented yet so I'm working on patent 
drawings.

But I'd take all of the below if someone else wants to help, 
particularly #6!
:-)

Zack

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, dkelly@... wrote:
>
> Quoting "Roy E. Burrage" <RBurrage@...>:
> 
> > Do you want schematics, pc board artwork, mechanical drawings, 
with CAM
> > 
> > files, an operator's manual, service instructions, and code?  If 
so, 
> > we'll need:
> > 
> > 1.  Schematic capture file format requirement.
> >        a. Do you also need spice models?
> > 2.  Same for pc board artwork.
> > 3.  Do you want mechanical drawings in native AutoCAD format or 
some
> > other?
> > 4.  CAM file format, G-code files too?
> > 5.  What language do you want code written in?
> >        C?  Assembler?  Basic?  PASCAL? FORTRAN? COBOL?  Wire wrap?
> 
> 6.  And most importantly: Two major credit cards each with a large 
amount of available credit and a 
> generous credit limit. And a room full of Hooter's Girls as lab 
assistants.
>

Quoting "Roy E. Burrage" <RBurrage@bellsouth.net>:

> Do you want schematics, pc board artwork, mechanical drawings, with CAM
> 
> files, an operator's manual, service instructions, and code?  If so, 
> we'll need:
> 
> 1.  Schematic capture file format requirement.
>        a. Do you also need spice models?
> 2.  Same for pc board artwork.
> 3.  Do you want mechanical drawings in native AutoCAD format or some
> other?
> 4.  CAM file format, G-code files too?
> 5.  What language do you want code written in?
>        C?  Assembler?  Basic?  PASCAL? FORTRAN? COBOL?  Wire wrap?

6.  And most importantly: Two major credit cards each with a large amount of available credit and a 
generous credit limit. And a room full of Hooter's Girls as lab assistants.

Zack Widup wrote:
> I have often wondered if you could use an AVR to control the speed of the 
> infamous cat-and-butter motor.  Since buttered bread always falls buttered 
> side down, and cats always land on their feet, if you strap a piece of 
> buttered bread to a cat's back (butter facing up) and drop him, the two 
> laws cancel each other and the cat hovers spinning above the floor. Add a 
> shaft and you can get real power out!
> 
> There must be a way to control the speed.
> :-)
> 
> Zack

ROFLMAO

You would need an AVR to control the speed ;) now the debate is what 
sort of a control algorythm do we need ??? but first we need to clasify 
the cat motor ;)


Kathy Quinlan.

K.A.Q. Electronics
Old Fashioned Service,
Old Fashioned Quality,
Old Fashioned Tradespeople for Todays Technology!
Mobile	0438 99 20 69
Email	kaqelec@bigpond.com

Indeed.  Send this off to Piers Anthony and it would almost 
_certainly_ end up in a "Xanth" story!

DLC

Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> Zack Widup wrote:
>> I have often wondered if you could use an AVR to control the speed of the 
>> infamous cat-and-butter motor.  Since buttered bread always falls buttered 
>> side down, and cats always land on their feet, if you strap a piece of 
>> buttered bread to a cat's back (butter facing up) and drop him, the two 
>> laws cancel each other and the cat hovers spinning above the floor. Add a 
>> shaft and you can get real power out!
>>
>> There must be a way to control the speed.
>> :-)
>>
>> Zack
> 
> ROFLMAO
> 
> You would need an AVR to control the speed ;) now the debate is what 
> sort of a control algorythm do we need ??? but first we need to clasify 
> the cat motor ;)
> 
> 
> Kathy Quinlan.
> 
> K.A.Q. Electronics
> Old Fashioned Service,
> Old Fashioned Quality,
> Old Fashioned Tradespeople for Todays Technology!
> Mobile	0438 99 20 69
> Email	kaqelec@bigpond.com
> 
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