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Hi,

I haven't seen a good website that teaches how to write C for the AVR 
and would like to get some opinion from the group about which book 
you'd recommend.  Sometimes, ratings on Amazon are a bit skewed.  I'd 
prefer to stick with AVR Studio and WinAVR. I already have the 
Kernighan & Ritchie book on C. 

From Amazon, I see the following available.  Which would you pick?

a) Embedded C Programming and the Atmel AVR by Richard Barnett, 2nd 
Edition, $70+

b) Embedded C Programming and the Atmel AVR by Richard Barnett, 1st 
Edition, $20+

c) C Programming for Microcontrollers Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly 
and the free WinAVR Compiler by Joe Pardue (Paperback - Mar 2005) , 
$50+

Thanks,
bronze

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "bronzefury" <bronzefury@yahoo.com>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: [AVR-Chat] C programming on AVR


> Hi,
>
> I haven't seen a good website that teaches how to write C for the AVR
> and would like to get some opinion from the group about which book
> you'd recommend.  Sometimes, ratings on Amazon are a bit skewed.  I'd
> prefer to stick with AVR Studio and WinAVR. I already have the
> Kernighan & Ritchie book on C.

You don't need anything else, just look at a few embedded C examples and it 
should be obvious what you need to do.

Leon
--
Leon Heller
Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
leon355@btinternet.com
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

On Mar 22, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Leon wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bronzefury" <bronzefury@yahoo.com>
> To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:45 PM
> Subject: [AVR-Chat] C programming on AVR
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I haven't seen a good website that teaches how to write C for the  
> AVR
> > and would like to get some opinion from the group about which book
> > you'd recommend. Sometimes, ratings on Amazon are a bit skewed. I'd
> > prefer to stick with AVR Studio and WinAVR. I already have the
> > Kernighan & Ritchie book on C.
>
> You don't need anything else, just look at a few embedded C examples  
> and it
> should be obvious what you need to do.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
> Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
> Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
> leon355@btinternet.com
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
>
>
> 
As I recall, there is a C programming tutorial (book) written by  
"Smiley" for the Butterfly. It has been received well. You can find  
out about it on the AVRFreaks website.

Jim Wagner
Amateur call KA7EHK

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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "bronzefury" <bronzefury@...> wrote:
> Which would you pick?
I have seen the Smiley Micros book "C Programming For 
Microcontrollers" highly recommended and praised on the AVR Freaks 
forum.  The author posts there frequently and seems to be 
knowledgeable.

http://www.smileymicros.com

The AVR Freaks forum has a tutorial section that might be quite useful 
to you.

http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=index

Don Kinzer
ZBasic Microcontrollers
http://www.zbasic.net

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:29:21 +0100, you wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "bronzefury" <bronzefury@yahoo.com>
>To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:45 PM
>Subject: [AVR-Chat] C programming on AVR
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't seen a good website that teaches how to write C for the AVR
>> and would like to get some opinion from the group about which book
>> you'd recommend.  Sometimes, ratings on Amazon are a bit skewed.  I'd
>> prefer to stick with AVR Studio and WinAVR. I already have the
>> Kernighan & Ritchie book on C.
>
>You don't need anything else, just look at a few embedded C examples and it 
>should be obvious what you need to do.

I'd disagree - C  for  embedded apps, especially on 8-bit targets, has some very important
limitations that aren't typically covered by general C books, which don't tell you what to NOT do to
in order to make things fit and run effifciently in small systems. 

 A book aimed specifically at embedded apps (on any target CPU) will provide valuable information.
Many of the C compiler vendors have appnotes and guides, and even if you're not using their product,
much of the information and techniques will be generally applicable.

Yes, this is the book I was talking about. The freely available first 
chapter is enough to get your started and decide if the book and 
platform is for you. Great marketing by the author.

    Sander

Don Kinzer wrote:

>
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> "bronzefury" <bronzefury@...> wrote:
> > Which would you pick?
> I have seen the Smiley Micros book "C Programming For
> Microcontrollers" highly recommended and praised on the AVR Freaks
> forum. The author posts there frequently and seems to be
> knowledgeable.
>
> http://www.smileymicros.com <http://www.smileymicros.com>
>
> The AVR Freaks forum has a tutorial section that might be quite useful
> to you.
>
> http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=index 
> <http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=index>
>
> Don Kinzer
> ZBasic Microcontrollers
> http://www.zbasic.net <http://www.zbasic.net>
>
>

Thanks for the input.  I will definitely look into choice c).  Choice 
a) had many more positive ratings than c) on Amazon but c) seems to 
be a good start.

I know C from a long time ago - during hobby programming projects and 
in college classes so I've forgotten quite a bit.  Being an ASIC guy, 
learning AVR assembly was quite easy but I don't think it can scale 
as easily to more complicated projects.  

Btw, I see a lot of opinion here about learning C.  My goal is to 
learn how to use C on an AVR - restrictions and all.


--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "bronzefury" <bronzefury@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I haven't seen a good website that teaches how to write C for the 
AVR 
> and would like to get some opinion from the group about which book 
> you'd recommend.  Sometimes, ratings on Amazon are a bit skewed.  
I'd 
> prefer to stick with AVR Studio and WinAVR. I already have the 
> Kernighan & Ritchie book on C. 
> 
> From Amazon, I see the following available.  Which would you pick?
> 
> a) Embedded C Programming and the Atmel AVR by Richard Barnett, 2nd 
> Edition, $70+
> 
> b) Embedded C Programming and the Atmel AVR by Richard Barnett, 1st 
> Edition, $20+
> 
> c) C Programming for Microcontrollers Featuring ATMEL's AVR 
Butterfly 

> and the free WinAVR Compiler by Joe Pardue (Paperback - Mar 2005) , 
> $50+
> 
> Thanks,
> bronze
>