Re: [AVR-Chat] UPDATE - AtTiny Communication Problem
2010-01-29 by Kenny M.
alright maybe I'll solder it back together then. I had actually put this together nice and tight on a board a few weeks ago. But since I was playing with pinouts, caps, resistors etc I took it apart and went down to this. I could just make some nice pieces of wire to use on the breadboard too? I have to run out soon and I'll pickup those ceramic caps. God I hope I get this soon lol ________________________________________ If after all this it still doesn't work I guess maybe I need to order some new chips? Since I have no way of truly knowing if these things are any good. The reason I bought these attiny15's is because that's what was in the parts list and I wanted to follow it to the letter for my first project. But everyone seems to think why the hell would I buy these old things lol I thought that maybe the file was compiled for that specific chip since I haven't actually compiled anything myself, all I have is a hex file. What other atmel chips will work for this? This is going to use 4 pins to drive a charieplexing led setup. Thanks, Kenny
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From: "Ivan Vernot" <ivernot@optushome.com.au>
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:24:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] UPDATE - AtTiny Communication Problem
Hi Kenny,
I had a quick look at your setup and frankly you'd save yourself and us quite a bit of time if you made the whole setup a bit more 'solid'. As others have said flying wires everywhere - and no bypass caps - and uncertain continuity - and uncertain connections - are all too variable for anyone to be able to help (unless they are sitting next to you)
If I were you I would -
1. Make all lead lengths as short as possible
2. Check the continuity of each line (miso,miso,sck,reset, etc) between the AVR ISP and ACTUAL pin of the micro (the proto boards are notorious for intermittent connections).
3. Check you have a nice clean 5V PSU (a regulated lab power supply is a great investment)
4. make sure you add the 100nF bypass cap as close as possible to the micro PCB.
5. Double (triple) check you connections between the ISP and the micro (MISO and MISO are easily swapped)
6. Try to get a know working board (sparkfun has some pretty cheap prebuilt kits)
I'd have for you to be discouraged for this hobby just because of a bad start but you are really having a bad time at this. Unless you have plenty of spare time I's start with something 'known working' then get back to these 'bargain' ATTinys when you have more confidence in you setup and your abilities.
Good Luck
Ivan
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> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of Kenny M.
> Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 2:33 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] UPDATE - AtTiny Communication Problem
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> Yes you're right, I had to reverse the connections when using the clip.
> I just didn't bother just for taking that pic.
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> -Kenny
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> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:29:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
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> In one of those pictures you have a part in an inverted "dip-clip".
> Is that part the AVR? If so, check all the connections.
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> Kenny M. wrote:
> > Here are some pics, hopefully you can make sense of them ... lol
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> > http://img163.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=dsc00362oy.jpg
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> > From: "John Samperi" < samperi@ampertronics.com.au >
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:06:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
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> > At 08:05 PM 28/01/2010, you wrote:
> >> Well it's got to be your board then.
> >> Either some pins wired up incorrectly between the programming header
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> > ...and we still don't know if he has ANY bypass caps on the power
> supply pins.
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> > Regards
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> > John Samperi
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