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AVR Studio Version 4.19
Build 730



I've been using AVR GCC for many years.  I purchased a JTAG debugger on ebay.

This version needs AVR Studio 4.xx

When I do the AVR Studio install and attempt to build I get the following:

Build started 6.7.2012 at 12:06:38
mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99              -DF_CPU=16000000UL -Os -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT Go_Atmega128.o -MF dep/Go_Atmega128.o.d  -c  ../Go_Atmega128.c


/usr/bin/sh: -Wall: command not found


make: [Go_Atmega128.o] Error 127 (ignored)




It looks like there is something wrong with -Wall


Under Project | Config Options |Custom Options

Use AVR Toolchain is selected

When I un-select this and point to my GCC.exe file I am unable to build.  'no build tools defined'

If I use my own makefile and other files I am able, of course, to do builds.
 


Many thanks for any input

Thanks Guys,


I installed 4.18 and all is working now.  (This is with my old ICE that works on a COM port)

My new ICE that I found on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AVR-USB-Emulator-debugger-programmer-JTAG-ICE-for-Atmel-/280886155007?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41661e96ff


I see that this new ICE uses a 'virtual serial port' through the USB.  Interesting....

I may just go with my old serial port based ICE (as it's basically the same thing)


Jim,
I have Visual Studio Ver10 on my machine.  I'm happy enough with the environment. 


David,
I don't think that my JTAG ICE will work with AVR Studio 6 because the ebay seller stated 4.xx

You are probably right.  Maybe I should try version 6.xx

From what Jim says, it looks like AVR Studio 6 will not work correctly as I have MS Visual Studio .NET version 10 installed  







--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Jim Wagner <wagnejam99@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 9:31 AM, David Kelly wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:24 AM, englsprogeny1 wrote:
> > 
> > > I've been using AVR GCC for many years. I purchased a JTAG debugger on ebay.
> > > 
> > > This version needs AVR Studio 4.xx
> > 
> > Does it really? Its not a clone of one of Atmel's supported JTAG's?
> > 
> > > When I do the AVR Studio install and attempt to build I get the following:
> > > 
> > > Build started 6.7.2012 at 12:06:38
> > > mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -DF_CPU=16000000UL -Os -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT Go_Atmega128.o -MF dep/Go_Atmega128.o.d -c ../Go_Atmega128.c
> > > 
> > > /usr/bin/sh: -Wall: command not found
> > > 
> > > make: [Go_Atmega128.o] Error 127 (ignored)
> > > 
> > > It looks like there is something wrong with -Wall
> > 
> > IIRC you have to install WinAVR in addition to AVRStudio back in the 4.x days.
> > 
> > While on that subject I am recently finding out what a dog .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio 10 is, all due to Atmel Studio 6.x.
> > 
> > --
> > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@...
> > ============================================================
> > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad
> > 
> >  
> > 
> Also, there are major problems with the current (and last) public release of Studio4, which is 4.19.
> 
> Ran into it last night when I tried a new install. Went back to 4.18 + WinAVR and all is beautiful.
> 
> Here is the link to the Atmel archive:
> 
> http://www.atmel.com/tools/STUDIOARCHIVE.aspx
> 
> 
> Download 4.18 and the three service packs. Install 4.18, then SP1, then SP2, then SP3. If you have a newer version of the USB driver, Jungo, just ignore the alerts as it is backward compatible. 
> 
> Then, if you have not done so, already, install WinAVR.
> 
> Jim Wagner
> Oregon Research Electronics
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:24 AM, englsprogeny1 wrote:

> I've been using AVR GCC for many years.  I purchased a JTAG debugger on ebay.
> 
> This version needs AVR Studio 4.xx

Does it really? Its not a clone of one of Atmel's supported JTAG's?

> When I do the AVR Studio install and attempt to build I get the following:
> 
> Build started 6.7.2012 at 12:06:38
> mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99              -DF_CPU=16000000UL -Os -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT Go_Atmega128.o -MF dep/Go_Atmega128.o.d -c  ../Go_Atmega128.c
> 
> /usr/bin/sh: -Wall: command not found
> 
> make: [Go_Atmega128.o] Error 127 (ignored)
> 
> It looks like there is something wrong with -Wall

IIRC you have to install WinAVR in addition to AVRStudio back in the 4.x days.

While on that subject I am recently finding out what a dog .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio 10 is, all due to Atmel Studio 6.x.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
============================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

OK, Cat

I only pointed to GCC.exe not to Make.exe

Still,  I went back to version 4.18

I'm thinking about trying version 5.x or 6.x to see if my JTAG ICE will work with these versions 
(maybe)

Maybe I will just work at this level.

Thanks!




--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Cat C <catalin_cluj@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On 4.19 ONLY (AFAIK) when you UNCHECK "Use AVR Toolchain" you have to actually browse to, and select the "other" "avr-gcc" and "make" executables in the boxes provided:
> 
> ...\WinAVR-20100110\bin\avr-gcc.exe...\WinAVR\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin\make.exe 
> 
> 
> Then you can build using your "winavr" included build tools.
> Cat
> 
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > From: englsprogeny1@...
> > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 16:24:35 +0000
> > Subject: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> > 
> > 
> > AVR Studio Version 4.19
> > Build 730
> ... 
> 
> > When I un-select this and point to my GCC.exe file I am unable to build.  'no build tools defined'
> > 
> > If I use my own makefile and other files I am able, of course, to do builds.
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks for any input
> > 
> 
>  		 	   		  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

OOPS...

Dave,  I misunderstood your previous post on this.

I see what you mean now.

AVR Studio 6.0 uses the Microsoft version 10 framework and you are saying that it's a bit glitchy underneath.

I may stick with version 4.18 then.

I see that you are an 'all around' hacker as well!

So many of us on here.
:)

I develop Windows apps using the express version of C# Version 10
and I develop Andoid apps using ... get ready for it....

Basic4Android

I know... sounds week but I like it.  I found setting up the environment in Eclipse for android to be such a pain!!!  

That's why I simply did the Basic4Andriod.

ok  I got off topic

This AVR group has helped me for many years!  Thanks, all of you!




--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" <dave_mclaughlin@...> wrote:

>
> Visual Studio 10 is awful. It hangs for seconds even just when scrolling
> through code. I gave up on it and moved back to 2008 until it gets sorted.
> Lots of stuff about it on the internet from other users.
> 
>  
> 
> I do use VS 10 C# Express for Microframework development and this works well
> with no delays and I like the way it works in that environment.
> 
>  
> 
> I hope one day AVR moves to Eclipse. Having used it for Netburner and
> Android development I like a lot of its features and the common interface
> that I get. Plus it then works on Linux as a bonus. :o)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Dave.
> 
>  
> 
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of David Kelly
> Sent: 06 July 2012 23:31
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> 
> While on that subject I am recently finding out what a dog .NET and
> Microsoft Visual Studio 10 is, all due to Atmel Studio 6.x.
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... <mailto:dkelly%40HiWAAY.net> 
> ============================================================
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Visual Studio 10 is awful. It hangs for seconds even just when scrolling
through code. I gave up on it and moved back to 2008 until it gets sorted.
Lots of stuff about it on the internet from other users.

 

I do use VS 10 C# Express for Microframework development and this works well
with no delays and I like the way it works in that environment.

 

I hope one day AVR moves to Eclipse. Having used it for Netburner and
Android development I like a lot of its features and the common interface
that I get. Plus it then works on Linux as a bonus. :o)

 

 

Dave.

From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Kelly
Sent: 06 July 2012 23:31
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue

While on that subject I am recently finding out what a dog .NET and
Microsoft Visual Studio 10 is, all due to Atmel Studio 6.x.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net <mailto:dkelly%40HiWAAY.net> 
============================================================





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On Jul 6, 2012, at 9:31 AM, David Kelly wrote:

> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:24 AM, englsprogeny1 wrote:
> 
> > I've been using AVR GCC for many years. I purchased a JTAG debugger on ebay.
> > 
> > This version needs AVR Studio 4.xx
> 
> Does it really? Its not a clone of one of Atmel's supported JTAG's?
> 
> > When I do the AVR Studio install and attempt to build I get the following:
> > 
> > Build started 6.7.2012 at 12:06:38
> > mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -DF_CPU=16000000UL -Os -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT Go_Atmega128.o -MF dep/Go_Atmega128.o.d -c ../Go_Atmega128.c
> > 
> > /usr/bin/sh: -Wall: command not found
> > 
> > make: [Go_Atmega128.o] Error 127 (ignored)
> > 
> > It looks like there is something wrong with -Wall
> 
> IIRC you have to install WinAVR in addition to AVRStudio back in the 4.x days.
> 
> While on that subject I am recently finding out what a dog .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio 10 is, all due to Atmel Studio 6.x.
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
> ============================================================
> Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad
> 
>  
> 
Also, there are major problems with the current (and last) public release of Studio4, which is 4.19.

Ran into it last night when I tried a new install. Went back to 4.18 + WinAVR and all is beautiful.

Here is the link to the Atmel archive:

http://www.atmel.com/tools/STUDIOARCHIVE.aspx


Download 4.18 and the three service packs. Install 4.18, then SP1, then SP2, then SP3. If you have a newer version of the USB driver, Jungo, just ignore the alerts as it is backward compatible. 

Then, if you have not done so, already, install WinAVR.

Jim Wagner
Oregon Research Electronics






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On 4.19 ONLY (AFAIK) when you UNCHECK "Use AVR Toolchain" you have to actually browse to, and select the "other" "avr-gcc" and "make" executables in the boxes provided:

...\WinAVR-20100110\bin\avr-gcc.exe...\WinAVR\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin\make.exe 


Then you can build using your "winavr" included build tools.
Cat

> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> From: englsprogeny1@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 16:24:35 +0000
> Subject: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> 
> 
> AVR Studio Version 4.19
> Build 730
... 

> When I un-select this and point to my GCC.exe file I am unable to build.  'no build tools defined'
> 
> If I use my own makefile and other files I am able, of course, to do builds.
>  
> 
> 
> Many thanks for any input
> 

 		 	   		  

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Cat -

I tried that and my download of WinAVR has no "avr-gcc" in "WinAVR-20100110\bin\". When I went back to 4.18, as I described in the just previous post, everything worked well.

Jim Wagner

On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Cat C wrote:

> 
> On 4.19 ONLY (AFAIK) when you UNCHECK "Use AVR Toolchain" you have to actually browse to, and select the "other" "avr-gcc" and "make" executables in the boxes provided:
> 
> ...\WinAVR-20100110\bin\avr-gcc.exe...\WinAVR\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin\make.exe 
> 
> Then you can build using your "winavr" included build tools.
> Cat
> 
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > From: englsprogeny1@yahoo.com
> > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 16:24:35 +0000
> > Subject: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> > 
> > 
> > AVR Studio Version 4.19
> > Build 730
> ... 
> 
> > When I un-select this and point to my GCC.exe file I am unable to build. 'no build tools defined'
> > 
> > If I use my own makefile and other files I am able, of course, to do builds.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks for any input
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 



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AFAIK there MUST be a "avr32-gcc.exe" in there, along with many other exes... they are what do the work :-)Even 4.18 uses those, it's just that it selects them automagically when you check the box.
Cat

> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> From: wagnejam99@comcast.net
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 10:25:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> 
> Cat -
> 
> I tried that and my download of WinAVR has no "avr-gcc" in "WinAVR-20100110\bin\". When I went back to 4.18, as I described in the just previous post, everything worked well.
> 
> Jim Wagner
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Cat C wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 4.19 ONLY (AFAIK) when you UNCHECK "Use AVR Toolchain" you have to actually browse to, and select the "other" "avr-gcc" and "make" executables in the boxes provided:
> > 
> > ...\WinAVR-20100110\bin\avr-gcc.exe...\WinAVR\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin\make.exe 
> > 
> > Then you can build using your "winavr" included build tools.
> > Cat
> > 
> > > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: englsprogeny1@yahoo.com
> > > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 16:24:35 +0000
> > > Subject: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue
> > > 
> > > 
> > > AVR Studio Version 4.19
> > > Build 730
> > ... 
> > 
> > > When I un-select this and point to my GCC.exe file I am unable to build. 'no build tools defined'
> > > 
> > > If I use my own makefile and other files I am able, of course, to do builds.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Many thanks for any input
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> 
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 
 		 	   		  

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No big deal, Dave.  Who needs to actually close windows and click things...?

I may end up getting a Dragon, as I see that it's part of the debug environment.  Then I can upgrade to AVR Studio 6 without issue, as well.




--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:28 PM, englsprogeny1 wrote:
> 
> > David,
> > I don't think that my JTAG ICE will work with AVR Studio 6 because the ebay seller stated 4.xx
> > 
> > You are probably right.  Maybe I should try version 6.xx
> 
> Briefly glancing at 6 I don't see support for JTAG ICE mkI, the original. Guessing your eBay JTAG ICE is a mkI clone much the same as the discontinued Ecros ICE CUBE was. Had many productive hours with my ICE CUBE.
> 
> An AVR Dragon is a very good $50 investment.
> 
> > From what Jim says, it looks like AVR Studio 6 will not work correctly as I have MS Visual Studio .NET version 10 installed
> 
> I'd hope Microsoft was not that stupid. During AS 6 install it detected that I did not have VS 10 or the proper .NET so it went out of its way to install those things. You already have them so I'd expect AS 6 just enhances your existing VS 10 with Atmel tools.
> 
> VS 10 runs so slow on my 3.0 GHz dual xeon that I sometimes forget what I was thinking when it finally responds to a mouse click. It appears to have not loaded and initialized that section of code until user does something to demand it. Trivial things people don't do all that often such as click on the close box to a window.  :-)
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@...
> ============================================================
> Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
>

On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:28 PM, englsprogeny1 wrote:

> David,
> I don't think that my JTAG ICE will work with AVR Studio 6 because the ebay seller stated 4.xx
> 
> You are probably right.  Maybe I should try version 6.xx

Briefly glancing at 6 I don't see support for JTAG ICE mkI, the original. Guessing your eBay JTAG ICE is a mkI clone much the same as the discontinued Ecros ICE CUBE was. Had many productive hours with my ICE CUBE.

An AVR Dragon is a very good $50 investment.

> From what Jim says, it looks like AVR Studio 6 will not work correctly as I have MS Visual Studio .NET version 10 installed

I'd hope Microsoft was not that stupid. During AS 6 install it detected that I did not have VS 10 or the proper .NET so it went out of its way to install those things. You already have them so I'd expect AS 6 just enhances your existing VS 10 with Atmel tools.

VS 10 runs so slow on my 3.0 GHz dual xeon that I sometimes forget what I was thinking when it finally responds to a mouse click. It appears to have not loaded and initialized that section of code until user does something to demand it. Trivial things people don't do all that often such as click on the close box to a window.  :-)

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
============================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

On Jul 6, 2012, at 2:30 PM, englsprogeny1 wrote:

> No big deal, Dave.  Who needs to actually close windows and click things...?

Yeah, who needs a 3.0 GHz Xeon when a 4.77 MHz PC XT will do!

> I may end up getting a Dragon, as I see that it's part of the debug environment.  Then I can upgrade to AVR Studio 6 without issue, as well.

I have several Dragons, a few I've somehow smoked. Not taken much time to see if they can be resurrected. Its just that they quit working. Perhaps there is a way to use my JTAGICE mkII to bring them back.

I'm so down on AS6 that I fired up AS4.xx and went looking only to find the Xmega A3B was supported but A3BU of the A3BU Xplain was not. This task is supposed to be a quickie, don't need the U, but am muddling through with AS6 rather than fight it. Have a fairly simple task of no more than A/D to AES to SPI. No user interface, command options, or other input (yet).

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
============================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

At 02:57 AM 7/07/2012, you wrote:
>Went back to 4.18 + WinAVR and all is beautiful.

Nice to hear that. :-)


Regards

John Samperi

********************************************************
Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
Tel. (02) 9674-6495
Website  http://www.ampertronics.com.au
*Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
********************************************************

At 05:07 AM 7/07/2012, you wrote:
>Briefly glancing at 6 I don't see support for JTAG ICE mkI, the original.

No serial port devices apart from the STK500 (and under duress) is supported
by AS5/6.


Regards

John Samperi

********************************************************
Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
Tel. (02) 9674-6495
Website  http://www.ampertronics.com.au
*Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
********************************************************

At 03:30 AM 7/07/2012, you wrote:
>AFAIK there MUST be a "avr32-gcc.exe" in there,

AS4.19 defaults to the use of the (buggy) Atmel Tool chain,
in order to use winAvr you need to reset your project to look
for it.

I'm still a happy and carefree AS4.18 user, not much hair left
to lose. :-)


Regards

John Samperi

********************************************************
Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
Tel. (02) 9674-6495
Website  http://www.ampertronics.com.au
*Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
********************************************************

On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:06 PM, John Samperi wrote:

> At 02:57 AM 7/07/2012, you wrote:
> >Went back to 4.18 + WinAVR and all is beautiful.
> 
> Nice to hear that. :-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Samperi
> 
> ********************************************************
> Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
> 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
> Tel. (02) 9674-6495
> Website http://www.ampertronics.com.au
> *Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
> ********************************************************
> 
> 
Thanks to your advice!

Jim

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This could be a warning to other younger AVR users. 

 

I also suffer from the no hair left and I put it down to being an AVR
programmer   :o)

 

 

Dave.

From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Samperi
Sent: 07 July 2012 06:13
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] AVR Studio 4 Build Issue

 

I'm still a happy and carefree AS4.18 user, not much hair left
to lose. :-)

Regards

John Samperi





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David Kelly wrote:

> ... your eBay JTAG ICE is a mkI clone much
> the same as the discontinued Ecros ICE CUBE
> was. Had many productive hours with my ICE CUBE.

Er, the AVR ICE-Cube hasn't been discontinued.  I've no idea how this impression got out.  I can still supply them to anyone who wants one, although the AVR Dragon and now Studio 5 and 6 are making it less attractive.  I don't plan to buy more PCBs when the current batch runs out.  But, I do have a couple of industrial customers who order many at once and I'd like to be clear that there is still a supply.

Graham.
ECROS Technology

Jim Wagner wrote:

> ... there are major problems with
> the current (and last) public release
> of Studio4, which is 4.19.

Could you please post a little more information about these "major problems"?  I have been using 4.19 (so as to avoid going to 5 or 6) and it seems just fine to me.

The only thing that caught me out was that the AVR Toolchain does not include the UNIX shell, which was present in WinAVR, so I could not build LUFA, which has an external makefile that requires the shell.  I fixed this by copying sh.exe from a WinAVR installation.

Graham.

John Samperi wrote:

> AS4.19 defaults to the use of the
> (buggy) Atmel Tool chain ...

Could you please indicate in what way the Atmel Toolchain is buggy?  I have been using it with no problems in both AVR Studio 4.19 and Atmel Studio 6 (not my choice) with no problems.  To build a project with an external makefile that uses the UNIX shell, you do have to find one from somewhere else, but that's minor.  There are additional parts, particularly in the ATxmega series, supported by 4.19 over 4.18.

Graham.

On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, bayramdavies wrote:

> David Kelly wrote:
> 
>> ... your eBay JTAG ICE is a mkI clone much
>> the same as the discontinued Ecros ICE CUBE
>> was. Had many productive hours with my ICE CUBE.
> 
> Er, the AVR ICE-Cube hasn't been discontinued.  I've no idea how this impression got out.  I can still supply them to anyone who wants one, although the AVR Dragon and now Studio 5 and 6 are making it less attractive.  I don't plan to buy more PCBs when the current batch runs out.  But, I do have a couple of industrial customers who order many at once and I'd like to be clear that there is still a supply.
> 
> Graham.
> ECROS Technology

Sorry about that, clearly I should have consulted the web page before saying things like that and hitting the send button: http://www.ecrostech.com/AtmelAvr/AvrIceCube/index.htm

Certainly got my money's worth out of mine. In one application which had a 50 mA supply my JTAGICE mkII drew too much power from the target but the ICE CUBE was perfectly happy. Much easier to use the ICE CUBE than to figure out how to get the mkII off my power supply.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

At 10:44 AM 8/07/2012, you wrote:
>Could you please indicate in what way the Atmel Toolchain is buggy?

I don't use it myself, still using 4.18 SP2, I'm only reporting
what I read in some of the AVRFreaks thread.

If you are happy with it then it's fine. :-)


Regards

John Samperi

********************************************************
Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
Tel. (02) 9674-6495
Website  http://www.ampertronics.com.au
*Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
********************************************************