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Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by Dave Mucha

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, ahmed adel farid 
<ahmedadelfarid@y...> wrote:
> Hi all
> if anyone have a Gmail invitation, please i need one
> my mail is      ahmedadelfarid@y...
> thanks a lot
> 
> 		
> ---------------------------------
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> vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!



DONE !!


Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?


Dave

Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by fnatmed

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" <egroupscdh@W...> 
wrote:
> > From: Dave Mucha
> > ....
> > Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?
> 
> I might want one if I knew what it was :-)
> 
> Can someone enlighten me?

It's the new email service from Google.  Lots of nice features, and 
sort of restricted in that you can only get an ID by being "invited" 
by someone else.

Of course, once you get an ID, you also get five invites to send out 
to others.

Come to think of it, I could use an invite as well.  deano at 
areyes.com :)

Thanks -

Dean.

Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley

oops he probably got a few to pass on...I sent one as well
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 06:40:49 -0000, Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, ahmed adel farid 
> <ahmedadelfarid@y...> wrote:
> > Hi all
> > if anyone have a Gmail invitation, please i need one
> > my mail is      ahmedadelfarid@y...
> > thanks a lot
> > 
> >             
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
> 
> 
> 
> DONE !!
> 
> 
> Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by Chuck Hackett

> From: Dave Mucha
> ....
> Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?

I might want one if I knew what it was :-)

Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers,

Chuck Hackett
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Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by Dave Mucha

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "fnatmed" <fnatmed@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" <egroupscdh@W...> 
> wrote:
> > > From: Dave Mucha
> > > ....
> > > Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?
> > 
> > I might want one if I knew what it was :-)
> > 
> > Can someone enlighten me?
> 
> It's the new email service from Google.  Lots of nice features, and 
> sort of restricted in that you can only get an ID by 
being "invited" 
> by someone else.
> 
> Of course, once you get an ID, you also get five invites to send 
out 
> to others.
> 
> Come to think of it, I could use an invite as well.  deano at 
> areyes.com :)
> 
> Thanks -
> 
> Dean.


The offering is for 100 meg of space, forever.  They want to hold 
your e-mail forever so you don't have to worry about storage and 
backing it up and all that.

Also, one really nice feature is that it will put your e-mail into 
folders based on the topic.

There is a yahoo group  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gmail_invites/
to spread the offerings.

I had 5 invites, used some, then they put me back up to 5.  they want 
to expand slowly so as to not overload their systems.

Yahoo e-mail jumped up to 100 meg about the time G-Mail started 
getting more press.

Dave

Re: What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by Dave Mucha

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Bill Velek <billvelek@a...> wrote:
> snipped stuff about Google's 'Gmail' and needing an invitation, etc.
> 
> I'm curious whether 'Gmail' has anything that sets it apart from, 
let's 
> say, 'Hotmail'.  I've had a couple of Hotmail accounts over the 
years 
> that I practically _never_ use, and then I guess they end up 
expiring or 
> something.  I only use one in rare instances when I want to 
communicate 
> with someone but feel that there might be some significant chance 
of 
> getting severely spammed.  Otherwise, I just use my regular email 
> address that my ISP has included as part of my monthly connection 
fee, 
> and with the filter that Netscape 7 provides, I get practically no 
spam 
> at all.  The only significant spam nuisance that I am forced to 
contend 
> with is the crap that those assholes put on newsgroups.  Does 
anyone 
> know of a filter that will work for newsgroups?  And what makes 
Gmail 
> distinctive?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bill Velek

With Hotmail, you get spammed.

When a guy at the office signed up for hotmail, he did spelled his 
name wrong.

then went to check the wrong account a week later and it was full of 
spam.  NO ONE knew of the account except MS.

My g-mail is semi dormant, I don't like having to put in my password 
all the time.   When I went last night to send an invite, it was ZERO 
SPAM.  only one message in three weeks and that was from a person 
from whom I had requested information.

I use Juno and Yahoo and find both to be very workable.

Juno is changing it's service to strictly on-line, whereas it used to 
be a download to your PC and you store all your e-mail on your pc.  
Now you have to pay for that.   Really silly as they offer free e-
mail, but not free web service.   This may eleminate the free e-mail 
part.  And if you use dial-up, they have to have the local phone 
lines and if you read on-line it will suck up time.

I think there is a conspiracy (pretty much about everything) that is 
trying to get all your e-mail on line.  The reason is that as a 
business model, the download was really smart.

OK, this has gone too far off topic for my sensibilities.

I'll self moderate and not reply unless asked a direct question.

Dave

What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by Bill Velek

snipped stuff about Google's 'Gmail' and needing an invitation, etc.

I'm curious whether 'Gmail' has anything that sets it apart from, let's 
say, 'Hotmail'.  I've had a couple of Hotmail accounts over the years 
that I practically _never_ use, and then I guess they end up expiring or 
something.  I only use one in rare instances when I want to communicate 
with someone but feel that there might be some significant chance of 
getting severely spammed.  Otherwise, I just use my regular email 
address that my ISP has included as part of my monthly connection fee, 
and with the filter that Netscape 7 provides, I get practically no spam 
at all.  The only significant spam nuisance that I am forced to contend 
with is the crap that those assholes put on newsgroups.  Does anyone 
know of a filter that will work for newsgroups?  And what makes Gmail 
distinctive?

Thanks.

Bill Velek

Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley

Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features,
that are not present in most other clients.

First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account.

Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are
built into the email client, I can create labels using a google-type
search of my inbox, and call up all messages, for example pertaining
to AVRs, traditionally, with most clients you can create folders, and
do kinda the same thing, but the nice thing about this is, that you
can have multiple labels per message, Ie in the previous example, I
could have a message on AVR Programmers that would get the label
hardware, & the label AVR, this makes sorting much easier.

Third, is the way individual messages, are handled, google groups them
in threads, much like a usenet type newsgroup, all replys are grouped
with the original message, so that you can read them together, in
context.

The other big feature is archiving, with 1 GB of space, you really
don't need to delete email that often, if at all so I could quickly
search my inbox, and find a message from several months ago.

-Mike
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:41:48 -0500, Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net> wrote:
> snipped stuff about Google's 'Gmail' and needing an invitation, etc.
> 
> I'm curious whether 'Gmail' has anything that sets it apart from, let's 
> say, 'Hotmail'.  I've had a couple of Hotmail accounts over the years 
> that I practically _never_ use, and then I guess they end up expiring or 
> something.  I only use one in rare instances when I want to communicate 
> with someone but feel that there might be some significant chance of 
> getting severely spammed.  Otherwise, I just use my regular email 
> address that my ISP has included as part of my monthly connection fee, 
> and with the filter that Netscape 7 provides, I get practically no spam 
> at all.  The only significant spam nuisance that I am forced to contend 
> with is the crap that those assholes put on newsgroups.  Does anyone 
> know of a filter that will work for newsgroups?  And what makes Gmail 
> distinctive?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bill Velek
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Gmail invitation

2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley

Dave, that should be 1GB :)
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:46:22 -0000, Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "fnatmed" <fnatmed@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" <egroupscdh@W...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > From: Dave Mucha
> > > > ....
> > > > Maybe if others need one, you can pass on the favor ?
> > > 
> > > I might want one if I knew what it was :-)
> > > 
> > > Can someone enlighten me?
> > 
> > It's the new email service from Google.  Lots of nice features, and 
> > sort of restricted in that you can only get an ID by 
> being "invited" 
> > by someone else.
> > 
> > Of course, once you get an ID, you also get five invites to send 
> out 
> > to others.
> > 
> > Come to think of it, I could use an invite as well.  deano at 
> > areyes.com :)
> > 
> > Thanks -
> > 
> > Dean.
> 
> 
> The offering is for 100 meg of space, forever.  They want to hold 
> your e-mail forever so you don't have to worry about storage and 
> backing it up and all that.
> 
> Also, one really nice feature is that it will put your e-mail into 
> folders based on the topic.
> 
> There is a yahoo group  
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gmail_invites/
> to spread the offerings.
> 
> I had 5 invites, used some, then they put me back up to 5.  they want 
> to expand slowly so as to not overload their systems.
> 
> Yahoo e-mail jumped up to 100 meg about the time G-Mail started 
> getting more press.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by Bill Velek

Michael Haisley wrote:

> Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features,
> that are not present in most other clients.
> 
> First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account.
> 
> Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are
> built into the email client, I can create labels using a google-type
> search of my inbox, and call up all messages, for example pertaining
> to AVRs, traditionally, with most clients you can create folders, and
> do kinda the same thing, but the nice thing about this is, that you
> can have multiple labels per message, Ie in the previous example, I
> could have a message on AVR Programmers that would get the label
> hardware, & the label AVR, this makes sorting much easier.
> 
> Third, is the way individual messages, are handled, google groups them
> in threads, much like a usenet type newsgroup, all replys are grouped
> with the original message, so that you can read them together, in
> context.
> 
> The other big feature is archiving, with 1 GB of space, you really
> don't need to delete email that often, if at all so I could quickly
> search my inbox, and find a message from several months ago.

snip

Well, you and Dave have given great reasons to be using Gmail instead of 
Hotmail, but I'm still wondering if it is worthwhile to use Gmail 
instead of my regular ISP-email and Netscape 7 as my reader.  For 
instance, my storage space is limited only by available space on my 
harddrives, and Netscape has a tremendously flexible and versatile 
search function, and it also includes 'labels' -- however, it does not 
permit _multiple_ labels per message, although I don't know exactly how 
much of a shortcoming that really is.  Netscape can group messages into 
threads, too.

Anyway, I don't understand the purpose of needing to be invited, and 
having limits on how many you can invite; that sounds more like a 
marketing scheme to me, to make it seem exclusive.  I can't see how 
restrictions like that are going to eliminate or reduce spam.

Cheers.

Bill Velek

Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley

Well, eventually (read: soon) it will be a free-for-all, the invite
system was for BETA purposes, since google can control the number of
invites, they can control the number of users, and increase the load
as they go.

I still have a couple of email accounts that I check via outlook, but
for the most part, I really prefer the google interface.  As far as
storage limits, of course with outlook, I wouldn't have the limits,
just my hard drive space, but speed is a major factor too, gmail can
search my mail in less than a second, outlook would be very painful at
this big of a mail storage.

The spam reduction is a whole nother thing, google has done some nifty
stuff in that front, including a general categorical filter that seems
to fine-tune it's self as your mail store grows, ie: bayesian
filtering, but it starts from a given point, instead of a blank slate.

But, the biggest feature, at least for me, is portability, seemless
portability, the client interface is just as good as outlook, and I
can use it absolutely anywhere, if i'm at a public access terminal in
a library I can pop on and have full access, if I am at a client site,
same thing, all without being tethered to a few desktops/laptops with
synchronization.

-Mike
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:28:30 -0500, Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net> wrote:
> Michael Haisley wrote:
> 
> > Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features,
> > that are not present in most other clients.
> > 
> > First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account.
> > 
> > Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are
> > built into the email client, I can create labels using a google-type
> > search of my inbox, and call up all messages, for example pertaining
> > to AVRs, traditionally, with most clients you can create folders, and
> > do kinda the same thing, but the nice thing about this is, that you
> > can have multiple labels per message, Ie in the previous example, I
> > could have a message on AVR Programmers that would get the label
> > hardware, & the label AVR, this makes sorting much easier.
> > 
> > Third, is the way individual messages, are handled, google groups them
> > in threads, much like a usenet type newsgroup, all replys are grouped
> > with the original message, so that you can read them together, in
> > context.
> > 
> > The other big feature is archiving, with 1 GB of space, you really
> > don't need to delete email that often, if at all so I could quickly
> > search my inbox, and find a message from several months ago.
> 
> snip
> 
> Well, you and Dave have given great reasons to be using Gmail instead of 
> Hotmail, but I'm still wondering if it is worthwhile to use Gmail 
> instead of my regular ISP-email and Netscape 7 as my reader.  For 
> instance, my storage space is limited only by available space on my 
> harddrives, and Netscape has a tremendously flexible and versatile 
> search function, and it also includes 'labels' -- however, it does not 
> permit _multiple_ labels per message, although I don't know exactly how 
> much of a shortcoming that really is.  Netscape can group messages into 
> threads, too.
> 
> Anyway, I don't understand the purpose of needing to be invited, and 
> having limits on how many you can invite; that sounds more like a 
> marketing scheme to me, to make it seem exclusive.  I can't see how 
> restrictions like that are going to eliminate or reduce spam.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Bill Velek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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RE: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-23 by stevech

thanks - but rather than add to lessening privacy - I would choose to
archive stuff on my own hard drives, since they are at $0.50 per GB these
days. I use a 120GB to backup my 80's via Acronis which compresses well.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Haisley [mailto:mhaisley@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:21 AM
To: avr-chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?



Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features,
that are not present in most other clients.

First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account.

Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are
built into the email client, I can create labels using a google-type
search of my inbox, and call up all messages, for example pertaining
to AVRs, traditionally, with most clients you can create folders, and
do kinda the same thing, but the nice thing about this is, that you
can have multiple labels per message, Ie in the previous example, I
could have a message on AVR Programmers that would get the label
hardware, & the label AVR, this makes sorting much easier.

Third, is the way individual messages, are handled, google groups them
in threads, much like a usenet type newsgroup, all replys are grouped
with the original message, so that you can read them together, in
context.

The other big feature is archiving, with 1 GB of space, you really
don't need to delete email that often, if at all so I could quickly
search my inbox, and find a message from several months ago.

-Mike


On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:41:48 -0500, Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net> wrote:
> snipped stuff about Google's 'Gmail' and needing an invitation, etc.
>
> I'm curious whether 'Gmail' has anything that sets it apart from, let's
> say, 'Hotmail'.  I've had a couple of Hotmail accounts over the years
> that I practically _never_ use, and then I guess they end up expiring or
> something.  I only use one in rare instances when I want to communicate
> with someone but feel that there might be some significant chance of
> getting severely spammed.  Otherwise, I just use my regular email
> address that my ISP has included as part of my monthly connection fee,
> and with the filter that Netscape 7 provides, I get practically no spam
> at all.  The only significant spam nuisance that I am forced to contend
> with is the crap that those assholes put on newsgroups.  Does anyone
> know of a filter that will work for newsgroups?  And what makes Gmail
> distinctive?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Velek
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
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>
>
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RE: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?

2004-10-24 by stevech

Google's gmail spam reduction - do you think the amount of spam that google
would eliminate would be less than the amount they would stuff into your
email each day? Considering gmail is free- you could expect a LOT of ads.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Haisley [mailto:mhaisley@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:23 PM
To: avr-chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?



Well, eventually (read: soon) it will be a free-for-all, the invite
system was for BETA purposes, since google can control the number of
invites, they can control the number of users, and increase the load
as they go.

I still have a couple of email accounts that I check via outlook, but
for the most part, I really prefer the google interface.  As far as
storage limits, of course with outlook, I wouldn't have the limits,
just my hard drive space, but speed is a major factor too, gmail can
search my mail in less than a second, outlook would be very painful at
this big of a mail storage.

The spam reduction is a whole nother thing, google has done some nifty
stuff in that front, including a general categorical filter that seems
to fine-tune it's self as your mail store grows, ie: bayesian
filtering, but it starts from a given point, instead of a blank slate.

But, the biggest feature, at least for me, is portability, seemless
portability, the client interface is just as good as outlook, and I
can use it absolutely anywhere, if i'm at a public access terminal in
a library I can pop on and have full access, if I am at a client site,
same thing, all without being tethered to a few desktops/laptops with
synchronization.

-Mike

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:28:30 -0500, Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net> wrote:
> Michael Haisley wrote:
>
> > Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features,
> > that are not present in most other clients.
> >
> > First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account.
> >
> > Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are
> > built into the email client, I can create labels using a google-type
> > search of my inbox, and call up all messages, for example pertaining
> > to AVRs, traditionally, with most clients you can create folders, and
> > do kinda the same thing, but the nice thing about this is, that you
> > can have multiple labels per message, Ie in the previous example, I
> > could have a message on AVR Programmers that would get the label
> > hardware, & the label AVR, this makes sorting much easier.
> >
> > Third, is the way individual messages, are handled, google groups them
> > in threads, much like a usenet type newsgroup, all replys are grouped
> > with the original message, so that you can read them together, in
> > context.
> >
> > The other big feature is archiving, with 1 GB of space, you really
> > don't need to delete email that often, if at all so I could quickly
> > search my inbox, and find a message from several months ago.
>
> snip
>
> Well, you and Dave have given great reasons to be using Gmail instead of
> Hotmail, but I'm still wondering if it is worthwhile to use Gmail
> instead of my regular ISP-email and Netscape 7 as my reader.  For
> instance, my storage space is limited only by available space on my
> harddrives, and Netscape has a tremendously flexible and versatile
> search function, and it also includes 'labels' -- however, it does not
> permit _multiple_ labels per message, although I don't know exactly how
> much of a shortcoming that really is.  Netscape can group messages into
> threads, too.
>
> Anyway, I don't understand the purpose of needing to be invited, and
> having limits on how many you can invite; that sounds more like a
> marketing scheme to me, to make it seem exclusive.  I can't see how
> restrictions like that are going to eliminate or reduce spam.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bill Velek
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
> ________________________________
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>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
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