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The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They appear over on
the right hand side of your read-message pane. No graphics, just text.

And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are targeted based
on the content of your email. Normally, I ignore ads, because they have
absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm interested in. The google
ads, are often directly relevant to what I'm doing, and I've clicked on
several.

The google ads are VERY much LESS annoying than the yahoo ones on the
newsgroups.

--
Dave Hylands
Vancouver, BC, Canada
http://www.DaveHylands.com/ 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stevech [mailto:stevech@san.rr.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:57 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?
> 
> 
> 
> Google's gmail spam reduction - do you think the amount of 
> spam that google
> would eliminate would be less than the amount they would 
> stuff into your
> email each day? Considering gmail is free- you could expect a 
> LOT of ads.

Dave Hylands wrote:
> The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They appear over on
> the right hand side of your read-message pane. No graphics, just text.
> 
> And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are targeted based
> on the content of your email.

snip

Hmmmmmm.  I'm not sure how I feel about that ... that Google is 
apparently analyzing the content of my emails.  Not that I would ever 
use an email for anything illegal, compromising or embarrassing.

Bill Velek

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill Velek" <billvelek@alltel.net>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 15:06
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?


>
> Dave Hylands wrote:
> > The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They
appear over on
> > the right hand side of your read-message pane. No
graphics, just text.
> >
> > And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are
targeted based
> > on the content of your email.
>
> snip
>
> Hmmmmmm.  I'm not sure how I feel about that ... that
Google is
> apparently analyzing the content of my emails.  Not that I
would ever
> use an email for anything illegal, compromising or
embarrassing.
>
> Bill Velek

Sounds like a justification in and of itself for using
encryption.  Wouldn't have too be too serious, just enough
to screw up the Google scanner.  ROT-13 might even work.

Erikc

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely  in a
well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally
worn out, shouting "...holy shit...what a ride!"

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Michael Haisley <mhaisley@g...> 
wrote:
> Ok, I've tried to let the topic die because it's well off topic, 
but I
> really think I should chime in.  Many people have brought up good 
and
> bad points of somthing like gmail.
> 
> You have to trust someone, I choose to trust google, as one of
> 500,000, I am far less likely to have a curious technician read my
> email than say a local isp with 150 users...  Google from the 
begining
> has disclosed how they do the adwords search, and that they don't 
pass
> information on to others, they have no incentive to lie here, just
> liability.  Many other ISPs & email providers are fairly open about
> what they can/will do, just read the user agreement for  Hotmail 
some
> time if your interested...  Essentually, everyone has the capability
> to read everything, that isn't encrypted, google is just honest 
about
> it, and the adwords are quite useful some times.


Not to sound too much like the Black Helocopter crowd but the US 
Federal Gov't has all your phone calls and all your e-mail archived.

That was put in place some 10-20 years ago.

Don't belive me ?  call a friend and discuss any major action of 
terrorism or against the major political leaders who are up for 
election shortly.

Popular Machanics did this some 4-5 years ago and was visited by men 
in Black.  They did an article on the key words and phrases and 
detailed the building where it all happens.

As I understand if you single out one it is a violation of individual 
rights, but if you do it to everybody it is allowed.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/4/Spying_On_Us/p
rint.phtml/

They have run other articles over the years.  But, the covert 
operation has more supercomputers than all the rest of the world 
combined.  

I don't worry as my problems are more of how to pay my bills and what 
to get the wife for her Birthday.

Dave

Ok, I've tried to let the topic die because it's well off topic, but I
really think I should chime in.  Many people have brought up good and
bad points of somthing like gmail.

You have to trust someone, I choose to trust google, as one of
500,000, I am far less likely to have a curious technician read my
email than say a local isp with 150 users...  Google from the begining
has disclosed how they do the adwords search, and that they don't pass
information on to others, they have no incentive to lie here, just
liability.  Many other ISPs & email providers are fairly open about
what they can/will do, just read the user agreement for  Hotmail some
time if your interested...  Essentually, everyone has the capability
to read everything, that isn't encrypted, google is just honest about
it, and the adwords are quite useful some times.

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:19:24 +0100, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote:
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Bill Velek" <billvelek@alltel.net>
>  To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 15:06
>  Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special?
>  
>  
>  >
>  > Dave Hylands wrote:
>  > > The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They
>  appear over on
>  > > the right hand side of your read-message pane. No
>  graphics, just text.
>  > >
>  > > And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are
>  targeted based
>  > > on the content of your email.
>  >
>  > snip
>  >
>  > Hmmmmmm.  I'm not sure how I feel about that ... that
>  Google is
>  > apparently analyzing the content of my emails.  Not that I
>  would ever
>  > use an email for anything illegal, compromising or
>  embarrassing.
>  >
>  > Bill Velek
>  
>  Sounds like a justification in and of itself for using
>  encryption.  Wouldn't have too be too serious, just enough
>  to screw up the Google scanner.  ROT-13 might even work.
>  
>  Erikc
>  
>  "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely  in a
>  well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally
>  worn out, shouting "...holy shit...what a ride!"
>  
>  
>  
> 
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