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Hi Friends,

    Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for Microcontrollers -
Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR compiler" by
Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do mail it to me or put it in the
files section.

Regards,
Shauvik

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:45:11 -0000 you wrote:

>Hi Friends,
>
>    Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for Microcontrollers -
>Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR compiler" by
>Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do mail it to me or put it in the
>files section.
>
>Regards,
>Shauvik

The book is the author's copyrighted work.

Don't steal. It is criminal.
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At 03:45 AM 6/07/2005, you wrote:
>     Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for Microcontrollers -
>Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR compiler" by
>Smileymicros.com ??


If you go to avrfreaks.com (atmel unofficial forum) you have an
entire forum with help for avr gcc and can download it from there.
Also Smiley hangs there a lot and can ask him if you can have a copy
of the book. I think you can read it on line as far as I know.


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> If you go to avrfreaks.com (atmel unofficial forum) you have an
> entire forum with help for avr gcc and can download it from there.
> Also Smiley hangs there a lot and can ask him if you can have a copy
> of the book. I think you can read it on line as far as I know.

Since he's selling the ebook for $29.99, it seems unlikely that he
would give it away....

-- 
Dave Hylands
Vancouver, BC, Canada
http://www.DaveHylands.com/

>     Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for 
> Microcontrollers - Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the 
> free WinAVR compiler" by Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do 
> mail it to me or put it in the files section.

I downloaded the 30 page getting started guide sample ages ago. It looks to
still be on his website:

http://www.smileymicros.com/QuickStartGuide.pdf

As for posting the full paid-for copy - I don't think this is the right kind
of list for that sort of behaviour... :((

Alex

>
>http://www.smileymicros.com/QuickStartGuide.pdf
>
>As for posting the full paid-for copy - I don't think this is the right kind
>of list for that sort of behaviour... :((

It isn't, and he's no longer a group member.

> ... downloaded the 30 page getting started guide...

I ordered the book from BooksAMillion online yesterday.  Today, I got
"Thank you for your recent order with us. We wanted to let you know that
your order has been cancelled because all of the items you ordered are
no longer available."

I've now ordered it directly from Joe.


Tom



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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Shauvik RoyChoudhary" 
<shauvikr@y...> wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> 
>     Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for Microcontrollers -
> Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR compiler" by
> Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do mail it to me or put it in the
> files section.
> 
> Regards,
> Shauvik

I'd like to thank the folks who emailed me about this attempted 
theft. In a way it is a good thing because I wasn't aware of this 
forum so I just joined and will be looking around. I usually hang out 
at AVRFreaks so it may take a bit to get used to the format and 
structure.

Also another good thing, apparently this resulted in one sale of the 
hardcopy, so thanks for that.

I'm reluctant to say this but I have given the pdf file away a bunch 
of times to folks in countries that are impossible to do business 
with due to monetary exchange concerns. I also track sales vs 
downloads and I am aware that piracy occurs, but I'm also not all 
that naive and know that this is simply a part of doing business. 

I've even sent it to students who asked. The reason I'm reluctant to 
mention this is that I usually ask for a bio and justification and I 
really don't have time to sort thru the real need and those who are 
feel to sense of entitlement and no need to compensate me for my 
work. The book isn't perfect and there are problems, but even so it 
can and has helped a bunch of folks get started with the AVR 
Butterfly and in my opinion is well worth the price.

I'm guessing that if this fellow had been honest enough to approach 
me that I would have sent him the pdf file. He's probably from one of 
those difficult countries and likely doesn't have a western income so 
I would have been happy to help him out. 

So thanks to those who informed me of the problem. I've noticed that 
there is a community around the AVR unlike any of the other micros 
I've worked with and it just feels nice to know that the neighbors 
are watching each other's back.

Smiley

>
>So thanks to those who informed me of the problem. I've noticed that
>there is a community around the AVR unlike any of the other micros
>I've worked with and it just feels nice to know that the neighbors
>are watching each other's back.


Glad to have you, and welcome.

After all, we are all authors here, one way or another :)

Joe Pardue <joepardue@hotmail.com> emailed:

"--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Shauvik RoyChoudhary" 
 <shauvikr@y...> wrote:
 > Hi Friends,
 > 
 >     Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for Microcontrollers -
 > Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR compiler" by
 > Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do mail it to me or put it in the
 > files section.
 > 
 > Regards,
 > Shauvik
 
 I'd like to thank the folks who emailed me about this attempted 
 theft. [..]

[..]"

For that you need not thank Yahoo!, whose very long latest official response
to me is reproduced below.

Regards,
Colin Paul








 
        
 
  
Yahoo!Copyright <copyright@yahoo-inc.com> emailed to <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org>

with subject:  "Re: Abuse - Copyrighted Material - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVR-Chat/
(KMM76087704V37451L0KM)"
on Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:51:50 -0700:

"Hello, 

Thank you for contacting Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!"). Yahoo! respects the 
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5.  A statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above 
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Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

In an email dated Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:45:53 -0700 with message ID 
<200507072346.j67NkMTK056783@mail-relay1.yahoo.com>,
Yahoo! claimed:

"Hello,

Thank you for contacting Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!"). Yahoo! respects the
intellectual property rights of others and we ask that our users do the
same. [..]"

It is clear that this is untrue.

Yahoo! said:

"While Yahoo! strives to assist, in Yahoo!'s discretion and accordance
with applicable law, in the protection of intellectual property rights,
your recent correspondence was insufficient to constitute an effective
Notification of Infringement ("NOI") within the meaning of the DMCA
and/or as required by Yahoo! policy. The elements required for an
effective NOI, and the contact information for submitting a NOI to
Yahoo!, are set forth at: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/copyright/copyright.html."

I did note that URL when following the directions on http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/abuse/abuse-02.html
and http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_abuse .

It was quite clear to others judging from others' responses to 
AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
in the past day that Shauvik RoyChoudhary was attempting to steal 
copyrighted
material by using Yahoo! Inc.

In the abuse report to you I quoted Shauvik RoyChoudhary's mention of 
Smileymicros.com
which if you had bothered to put that into a webbrowser you would see 
without
having to follow any further hyperlinks that the book costs money.

I note from the bottom of Yahoo!'s email that you said:

"Yahoo ID: unknown"

whereas I quite clearly indicated in the report that the Yahoo! ID is 
shauvikr
and you even quoted this elsewhere in the email.

Yahoo! said:

"Please be aware that you may submit a NOI in response to this e-mail.
To be effective, an NOI must contain substantially the following
(reproduced in relevant part from http://docs.yahoo.com/info/copyright/copyright.html):

1. A description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual 
property
that you claim has been infringed;

2. A description of the location where the material that you claim 
is
infringing is located;

3. A statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the
reported use is not authorized by the copyright or intellectual property
owner, its agent, or the law;

4. Your address, telephone number, and, if available, e-mail 
address;

5. A statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the 
above
information is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual
property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual
property owner's behalf; and

6. An electronic or physical signature by the person making the
submission (i.e., you or such other person authorized to act on behalf
of the complaining party). If the submission is made electronically,
the authorized person making the submission should designate his or her
electronic signature by typing a forward slash ("/") before and after
his or her typed name and follow this electronic signature by again
typing his or her name. For example:

/Jane Doe/
Jane Doe

This format is intended to represent a signature and typed name as is
customarily found within the signature block of traditional, or "hard
copy," business correspondence."

This extremely long list does not appear on
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/abuse/abuse-02.html
nor http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_abuse .

Nor is it actually necessary. If you would simply check the email by 
Shauvik
RoyChoudhary and read the domain name mentioned therein via the 
hypertext
transfer protocol, you would need to be very incompetent not to notice 
an
attempt to steal. Nor does point 5's requirement that I need to have a 
relationship
with the copyright holder make any sense: copyright infringement is 
still
illegal whether who reports it is the copyright holder or not. You make 
an
act of decency by a third party difficult.

"Once Yahoo! has received a NOI containing each of the required elements
detailed above, Yahoo! will expeditiously proceed to process your
request.

We wish to thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this
matter. Please contact us if you have any questions or we can further
assist you in this matter.


Regards,

Copyright Agent, Yahoo! Inc.
copyright@yahoo-inc.com
****************************
c/o Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Ave.
Sunnyvale, CA 94089"

Then you should be ashamed of yourselves for leaving your work to 
others.

Yours faithfully,
Colin Paul Gloster

"Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

>>REDFRMADV

Mail-Id: 1120739506-6166

Yahoo! ID: Shauvik RoyChoudhary (shauvikr@yahoo.com)

Subject: Copyrighted Material

What Group are you reporting?
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVR-Chat/

Type your feedback here:
 The group and its moderator are innocent, it is a group
member who is trying to act illegally. The culprit is
trying to illegally acquire a non-gratis copyrighted book.
The author of the book advertises jpardue@ClarityDC.com as
his email address. The body and many headers of the email
solicitating theft can be found below.
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Hi Friends,

    Does anyone have the ebook "C Programming for
Microcontrollers -
Featuring ATMEL's AVR Butterfly and the free WinAVR
compiler" by
Smileymicros.com ?? If so please do mail it to me or put
it in the
files section.

Regards,
Shauvik







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