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Re: [AVR-Chat] eclipse and avr-gcc?

Re: [AVR-Chat] eclipse and avr-gcc?

2005-10-21 by stevech@san.rr.com

VisiCalc on the Apple - yes, now I recall that you're correct - before PCs. That and Electric Pencil got the movement away from typewriters started (guess who had a near-monopoly on typewriters?)

----- Original Message -----

From: David Kelly

Date: Friday, October 21, 2005 5:23 am

Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] eclipse and avr-gcc?

>
> On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:23 PM, John Altstadt wrote:
> >
> > stevech wrote:
> >
> >> But, VisiCalc, which I say "MADE" PCs happen, ran OK none the
> >> less, and ran
> >> on Apples too.
> >
> > John (who is feeling old and crotchety today, realizing that he has
> > lived through more than two thirds of digital computer history and
> > worked through more than a third of it (and being paid to learn
> a new
> > language right now, so it's not all bad))
>
> Thought I'd let someone else speak up and correct stevech but
> VisiCalc shipped on Apple ][ *first*. It was some time later
> before
> it shipped on PC.
>
> Clearly if we are to be treated with any respect we need a VC port
> to
> AVR... :-)
>
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
> ===! =========

Re: [AVR-Chat] eclipse and avr-gcc?

2005-10-22 by David Kelly

On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:46 AM, stevech@san.rr.com wrote:

> VisiCalc on the Apple - yes, now I recall that you're correct -  
> before PCs. That and Electric Pencil got the movement away from  
> typewriters started (guess who had a near-monopoly on typewriters?)

It was Lotus 1-2-3 which did for PC what VisiCalc did for Apple ][.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

Re: off topic thread that refuses to die *grin*

2005-10-22 by Thomas Keller

On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 19:51 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
> On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:46 AM, stevech@san.rr.com wrote:
> > VisiCalc on the Apple - yes, now I recall that you're correct -  
> > before PCs. That and Electric Pencil got the movement away from  
> > typewriters started (guess who had a near-monopoly on typewriters?)
> It was Lotus 1-2-3 which did for PC what VisiCalc did for Apple ][.
 
  Since Lotus 1-2-3 was essentially a ripoff (knockoff, if you prefer
more polite terminology) of VisiCalc, I think the original statement
holds.

  He was mistaken regarding typewriters, however.  At that time, while
IBM made what may well have arguably been the best typewriters
available, tyhere were numerous other typewriter manufacturers in the
business,m all doing goo dvolumes (Brother, Royal, Smith Corona, to name
but a few that come to mind).

Tom

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