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Another excellent way to start is with an ATMega32 kit
from Eddy Wright @ WWW.WrightHobbies.NET.  for $35.00
US you get a kit to build a controller with AtMega32,
programming pins brought out to the standard 10pin ISP
header, ISP dongle for programming, and a software CD
that includes the freeware version of BascomAVR Basic.
It only takes a half hour to assemble and you're good
to go.

Mark Weston



	

	
		
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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Mark Weston <weston54@y...> wrote:
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> ... AtMega32, programming pins brought out to the standard 10pin ISP 
header

BTW - there seems to be a new standard:
The new AVRISP mkII only has the 6-pin connector.

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Wimmer" <yahoo@w...> wrote:
> BTW - there seems to be a new standard:
> The new AVRISP mkII only has the 6-pin connector.

It's not particularly new.  The STK500 has both 6-pin and 10-pin ISP 
connectors.  The ATAVRISP also has both.

Don
ZBasic Microcontrollers
http://www.zbasic.net

What I cannot figure out is why they didn't bring SS out to the 10-pin header (replacing one of the ground leads) thereby allowing developers to use the same header for both ISP and SPI

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:12:42 -0000
"Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@easystreet.com> wrote:

> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Wimmer" <yahoo@w...> wrote:
> > BTW - there seems to be a new standard:
> > The new AVRISP mkII only has the 6-pin connector.
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> It's not particularly new.  The STK500 has both 6-pin and 10-pin ISP 
> connectors.  The ATAVRISP also has both.
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> Don
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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, James Washer <washer@t...> wrote:
>What I cannot figure out is why they didn't bring SS out to the
> 10-pin header (replacing one of the ground leads) thereby allowing
> developers to use the same header for both ISP and SPI

Since pin 3 of the 10-pin configuration is not used, you could patch-
wire SS to that pin.

Don
ZBasic Microcontrollers
http://www.zbasic.net

Of course... thanks

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 03:08:07 -0000
"Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@easystreet.com> wrote:

> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, James Washer <washer@t...> wrote:
> >What I cannot figure out is why they didn't bring SS out to the
> > 10-pin header (replacing one of the ground leads) thereby allowing
> > developers to use the same header for both ISP and SPI
> 
> Since pin 3 of the 10-pin configuration is not used, you could patch-
> wire SS to that pin.
> 
> Don
> ZBasic Microcontrollers
> http://www.zbasic.net
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> BTW - there seems to be a new standard:
> The new AVRISP mkII only has the 6-pin connector.

AFAIK the 6 pin version is the original Atmel idea behind, the 10 pin
version originated from Kanda

Regards,

Klaus

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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@e...> wrote:
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> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Wimmer" <yahoo@w...> wrote:
> > BTW - there seems to be a new standard:
> > The new AVRISP mkII only has the 6-pin connector.
> 
> It's not particularly new.  The STK500 has both 6-pin and 10-pin ISP 
> connectors.  The ATAVRISP also has both.

Yes, of course the 6-pin header isn't new per se, but since the new 
AVRISP mkII has only this type, it will be the new standard after years 
of using the 10-pin variant for many of us.

I'm using AVRs almost from the very beginning of their appearance and 
the first available development system (STK200) had the 10-pin ISP 
connector...

> I'm using AVRs almost from the very beginning of their appearance and 
> the first available development system (STK200) had the 10-pin ISP 
> connector...

Same here, but I've been using the 6 pin for years. Never understood 
why you'd want the 10 pin anyway.

It's much easier to find 10p IDC connectors

> Same here, but I've been using the 6 pin for years. Never understood 
> why you'd want the 10 pin anyway.

> Yes, of course the 6-pin header isn't new per se, but since the new 
> AVRISP mkII has only this type, it will be the new standard after years 
> of using the 10-pin variant for many of us.

As the AVRISP mkII has been developed by Atmel.

>... and the first available development system (STK200) had the 10-pin ISP 
> connector...

and was developed by Kanda (which is the reason for the 10 pins)

Regards,

Klaus

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