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They don't offer drivers , offer only cd , who is cheap to USA but not to Estern Europe . And the time to receive also is undefinite .

Best Regards

Flavius

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Welcome to the new and improved H-P! What a waste... Nothing I've bought from those folks in the
last five years has worked correctly the first time.

Bruce

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flavius wrote:

> 
> They don't offer drivers , offer only cd , who is cheap to USA but not to Estern Europe . And the time to receive also
> is undefinite .
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Flavius

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Parham [mailto:obparham@jpl.nasa.gov] 
> Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2003 2:39 AM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: OT: HP photosmart 612 digital camera
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> 
> Welcome to the new and improved H-P! What a waste... Nothing 
> I've bought from those folks in the last five years has 
> worked correctly the first time.
> 
> Bruce
Don't get me started, HP ScanJet 5200C scan a page then wait up to 20
minutes before you can scan another :o(

I am buying a Brother MFC next, have nothing but praise for my Brother
Laser printer.


Regards,

Kat.

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Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?

Regards,
Jim McGinn
P.S. It is at:
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=2725.

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From: "Kathy Quinlan" <kat-yahoo@kaqelectronics.dyndns.org>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: OT: HP photosmart 612 digital camera


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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Parham [mailto:obparham@jpl.nasa.gov]
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> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
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> >
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the new and improved H-P! What a waste... Nothing
> > I've bought from those folks in the last five years has
> > worked correctly the first time.
> >
> > Bruce
> Don't get me started, HP ScanJet 5200C scan a page then wait up to 20
> minutes before you can scan another :o(
>
> I am buying a Brother MFC next, have nothing but praise for my Brother
> Laser printer.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kat.
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At 09:54 PM 12/9/2003 -0700, Jim McGinn wrote:
>Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?

Not extensively.
Our pet peeves are still present, skipping instructions, and badly 
displaying the source.

Also the forced update killed one of our AVRISPs, which was connected 
through a USB serial port.

At 09:54 PM 9/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?
>
Yep..and it is excellent for bugs, nice and juicy new ones :-) I must admit
(darn) that I'm almost getting to like it, it is a vast improvement on 4.07.
There is a thread on AVRfreaks that I started with some bugs I did discover.
I have send a list to Atmel and they say that they have mostly fixed them
for the final release. I have been using it on and off for about a week and
haven't had to go back to 3.56 yet. Remember that it is still a Beta release
so if you can hang on for a little while (I hope) we should get the final
release
with a lot of bugs fixed.

Regards

John Samperi

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Using it now, it finds the Jtag ICE better :o)

Locks up the ice and the ice needs power cycling, but then all is fine
again for a while.

Reads in the ExtCoff files from Codevision AVR nicely and lets me play
:o)

Regards,

Kat.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim McGinn [mailto:mcginn@mcginnovation.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:55 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AVR-Chat] Has Anyone Tried AVR Studio 4.08 Yet?
> 
> 
> Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?
> 
> Regards,
> Jim McGinn
> P.S. It is at: 
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=2725.

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Hi Jim,

I'm using 4.08 with the Tiny13 right now, so I really have no choice but
to use it.  I've had some problems with the Project Manager window.  The
work around is to only add/create files using the right click menu.
Atmel claims that very few have reported this problem.

My project manager window sometimes blanks.  It comes back, but I don't
know how to make it happen at will.  So far it hasn't created any
problems for me, although I've had to re-start studio to get it back at
times.

It vastly irritates me that I must still use 3.55 to work with the
Tiny15.  Most of our products are based on that processor.  BTW, there
is a firmware upgrade for the STK500 required when you go to 4.08, and I
_believe_ that it renders the STK incompatible with 3.55.  Atmel's
response to my questions and concerns about this can be paraphrased as
"who cares".  I suspect that I can simulate Tiny15 programs with the
Tiny13 simulator, but I haven't had time to try this yet.

The conditional assembly directives are very long overdue, and a huge
attraction for me as all of the projects I work on have analog inputs,
which are a real pain in the simulator.  There are errors in the help
files for the new directives.  Surf
http://www.avrfreaks.net/phorum/list.php?f=8 for more details here.
This list is monitored by the 4.08 development team, and they will
(occasionally) respond.

Apart from those problems, things seem to be ok, but I haven't got
hundreds of hours in yet.  I like where things are going with this.

Lyle Killough

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim McGinn [mailto:mcginn@mcginnovation.com]
> Sent: December 9, 2003 8:55 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AVR-Chat] Has Anyone Tried AVR Studio 4.08 Yet?
> 
> Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?
> 
> Regards,
> Jim McGinn
> P.S. It is at:
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=2725.

Thank you everyone for your replies on this.

Lyle,

> is a firmware upgrade for the STK500 required when you go to 4.08, and I
> _believe_ that it renders the STK incompatible with 3.55.  Atmel's

Do you know if the STK500 can be put back, so that it is compatible again?

Thank you,
Jim McGinn
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Lyle Killough" <lyle@suregripcontrols.com>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Has Anyone Tried AVR Studio 4.08 Yet?


> Hi Jim,
>
> I'm using 4.08 with the Tiny13 right now, so I really have no choice but
> to use it.  I've had some problems with the Project Manager window.  The
> work around is to only add/create files using the right click menu.
> Atmel claims that very few have reported this problem.
>
> My project manager window sometimes blanks.  It comes back, but I don't
> know how to make it happen at will.  So far it hasn't created any
> problems for me, although I've had to re-start studio to get it back at
> times.
>
> It vastly irritates me that I must still use 3.55 to work with the
> Tiny15.  Most of our products are based on that processor.  BTW, there
> is a firmware upgrade for the STK500 required when you go to 4.08, and I
> _believe_ that it renders the STK incompatible with 3.55.  Atmel's
> response to my questions and concerns about this can be paraphrased as
> "who cares".  I suspect that I can simulate Tiny15 programs with the
> Tiny13 simulator, but I haven't had time to try this yet.
>
> The conditional assembly directives are very long overdue, and a huge
> attraction for me as all of the projects I work on have analog inputs,
> which are a real pain in the simulator.  There are errors in the help
> files for the new directives.  Surf
> http://www.avrfreaks.net/phorum/list.php?f=8 for more details here.
> This list is monitored by the 4.08 development team, and they will
> (occasionally) respond.
>
> Apart from those problems, things seem to be ok, but I haven't got
> hundreds of hours in yet.  I like where things are going with this.
>
> Lyle Killough
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim McGinn [mailto:mcginn@mcginnovation.com]
> > Sent: December 9, 2003 8:55 PM
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AVR-Chat] Has Anyone Tried AVR Studio 4.08 Yet?
> >
> > Has anyone tried the AVR Studio 4.08 yet? If so, how is for bugs?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim McGinn
> > P.S. It is at:
> > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=2725.
>
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> Do you know if the STK500 can be put back, so that it is compatible
again?

Funny you should ask, as I had to program a few Tiny15's this morning.
Yes, you can re-load the old firmware.  The file you need is called
C:\Program Files\Atmel\AVR Tools\STK500\stk500.ebn if you did a normal
install of AVR Studio.  

I loaded stk500.ebn from Studio 3.55, programmed Tiny15s, loaded
stk500.ebn from 4.08 and went back to playing with the Tiny13s.

The load routine is in Studio 4.08 under Tools>AVR Prog.  

Lyle Killough

Thank you!

Regards,
Jim McGinn
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From: "Lyle Killough" <lyle@suregripcontrols.com>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Has Anyone Tried AVR Studio 4.08 Yet?


> > Do you know if the STK500 can be put back, so that it is compatible
> again?
>
> Funny you should ask, as I had to program a few Tiny15's this morning.
> Yes, you can re-load the old firmware.  The file you need is called
> C:\Program Files\Atmel\AVR Tools\STK500\stk500.ebn if you did a normal
> install of AVR Studio.
>
> I loaded stk500.ebn from Studio 3.55, programmed Tiny15s, loaded
> stk500.ebn from 4.08 and went back to playing with the Tiny13s.
>
> The load routine is in Studio 4.08 under Tools>AVR Prog.
>
> Lyle Killough
>
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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@c...> wrote:
> ...
> Also the forced update killed one of our AVRISPs, which was 
connected 
> through a USB serial port.

...had this happen too when I had accidentially connected the AVRISP 
to a target during forced update.

Fortunatel there is a description how to reprogram it in the help 
file (help -> tools user's guide -> AVRISP User's guide -> getting 
started -> manual firmware upgrade)

Try it, worked for me.