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Guys & Gals:

   I have an AVR-Lite programmer board here, and I am trying to pop an 
ATtiny2313 with it.  I was under the impression I would be able to use 
AVR Studio for this, but AVR Studio doesn't seem to recognize this 
board.  Can anyone tell me what software can be used, and how to obtain 
it, please?

   Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter;

tom

On 2/6/07, Thomas Keller <tjkeller1@alltel.net> wrote:
>
> Guys & Gals:
>
>   I have an AVR-Lite programmer board here, and I am trying to pop an
> ATtiny2313 with it.  I was under the impression I would be able to use
> AVR Studio for this, but AVR Studio doesn't seem to recognize this
> board.  Can anyone tell me what software can be used, and how to obtain
> it, please?


If it's going to work with Studio, it needs to emulate one of the programmer
types listed under the tools menu.


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Well.  I found out that WInAVR with AVRDude is supposed to work with 
this board.   I chose to run the AVRDude-GUI version.   When I tell it 
to execute, nothing happens.   I have selected a processor type, I have 
provided the path to the hex file, and I checked a few options boxes 
(such as do a chip erase first, and be verbose).  Nothing happens.   Any 
suggestions, filk?

tom

On 2/6/07, Thomas Keller <tjkeller1@alltel.net> wrote:
>
> Well.  I found out that WInAVR with AVRDude is supposed to work with
> this board.   I chose to run the AVRDude-GUI version.   When I tell it
> to execute, nothing happens.   I have selected a processor type, I have
> provided the path to the hex file, and I checked a few options boxes
> (such as do a chip erase first, and be verbose).  Nothing happens.   Any
> suggestions, filk?


Target power, clock, reset all check ok?


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Hi Tom, 
Back in the day when I was still using parallel programmers, I found
Ponyprog to be the best programming application around. 

As pointed out by other people, AVRISP + AVRStudio is much much easier
to deal with.

Cheers
Hein B
Auckland, New Zealand.


--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Keller <tjkeller1@...> wrote:

>
> Guys & Gals:
> 
>    I have an AVR-Lite programmer board here, and I am trying to pop an 
> ATtiny2313 with it.  I was under the impression I would be able to use 
> AVR Studio for this, but AVR Studio doesn't seem to recognize this 
> board.  Can anyone tell me what software can be used, and how to obtain 
> it, please?
> 
>    Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter;
> 
> tom
>

At 07:10 AM 7/02/2007, you wrote:
>  Nothing happens.   Any
>suggestions, filk?

I'm supposing that it is a parallel port type?
If so check that the port is in SPP mode (from bios) and
have giveio.sys installed...and be prepared for lots
of headaches as you will likely mess us the fuses
and nothing will work.

It's just SO MUCH easier to get a real AVRISP that
works with Studio for professional use.

Regards

John Samperi

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A google search did not turn up much. It looks like the
original manufacturer many not have a web presence any
more. And, it does look like its a parallel programmer. 

Everything I've heard is that that modern computers are a
major pain when you try to use the parallel port for
anything.

Jim


On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:43:06 -0000
 "kernels_nz" <hein@mediflex.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi Tom, 
> Back in the day when I was still using parallel
> programmers, I found
> Ponyprog to be the best programming application around. 
> 
> As pointed out by other people, AVRISP + AVRStudio is
> much much easier
> to deal with.
> 
> Cheers
> Hein B
> Auckland, New Zealand.
> 
> 
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Keller
> <tjkeller1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Guys & Gals:
> > 
> >    I have an AVR-Lite programmer board here, and I am
> trying to pop an 
> > ATtiny2313 with it.  I was under the impression I would
> be able to use 
> > AVR Studio for this, but AVR Studio doesn't seem to
> recognize this 
> > board.  Can anyone tell me what software can be used,
> and how to obtain 
> > it, please?
> > 
> >    Thank you for your time and consideration in this
> matter;
> > 
> > tom
> >
> 
> 

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You mean this one?
http://www.lancos.com/prog.html

The parallel port is a pain.  It is a self inflicted pain when the STK500
and AVRISP are so inexpensive.  Lots of places offer $15 more-or-less
parallel port programmers as well that work with PonyProg, Avrdude or even
Bascom.  There really just isn't any reason to struggle with a home grown
thing.

DLC

> A google search did not turn up much. It looks like the
> original manufacturer many not have a web presence any
> more. And, it does look like its a parallel programmer.
>
> Everything I've heard is that that modern computers are a
> major pain when you try to use the parallel port for
> anything.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:43:06 -0000
>  "kernels_nz" <hein@mediflex.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi Tom,
>> Back in the day when I was still using parallel
>> programmers, I found
>> Ponyprog to be the best programming application around.
>>
>> As pointed out by other people, AVRISP + AVRStudio is
>> much much easier
>> to deal with.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Hein B
>> Auckland, New Zealand.
>>
>>
>> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Keller
>> <tjkeller1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys & Gals:
>> >
>> >    I have an AVR-Lite programmer board here, and I am
>> trying to pop an
>> > ATtiny2313 with it.  I was under the impression I would
>> be able to use
>> > AVR Studio for this, but AVR Studio doesn't seem to
>> recognize this
>> > board.  Can anyone tell me what software can be used,
>> and how to obtain
>> > it, please?
>> >
>> >    Thank you for your time and consideration in this
>> matter;
>> >
>> > tom
>> >
>>
>>
>
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> The Think Different Store
> http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/
> For All Your Mac Gear
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

David: I don;t know. The red LED onthe AVR-Lite board is lit, that;s all 
I know. I don;t know how to check for those other items.


David VanHorn wrote:

>
> On 2/6/07, Thomas Keller <tjkeller1@alltel.net 
> <mailto:tjkeller1%40alltel.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Well. I found out that WInAVR with AVRDude is supposed to work with
> > this board. I chose to run the AVRDude-GUI version. When I tell it
> > to execute, nothing happens. I have selected a processor type, I have
> > provided the path to the hex file, and I checked a few options boxes
> > (such as do a chip erase first, and be verbose). Nothing happens. Any
> > suggestions, filk?
>
> Target power, clock, reset all check ok?
>
>

I haven;t the oney to pruchae any hardware with.  

kernels_nz wrote:

>
> Hi Tom,
> Back in the day when I was still using parallel programmers, I found
> Ponyprog to be the best programming application around.
>
> As pointed out by other people, AVRISP + AVRStudio is much much easier
> to deal with.
>

Found this using google....

Atmel AVR Lite Programmer Board  CAN$39.99  (US$27.99) :

    This board is for programming various types of Atmel AVR chips via the 
parallel port on a computer.  It supports 8-pin, 20-pin, and 40-pin chips 
such as AT90S2323, 2343, 1200, 2313, 8515.   Power is derived from the 
parallel port so an external power source is not required.  The only 
connection to the board is the DB-25 parallel interface.  The board also 
includes two led's;  one to indicate that there is power to the board, and 
another to indicate the presence of data being transmitted from the computer 
to the chip or vice-versa.  This programmer supports many different types of 
programming software.  The software that we recommend is fbprg16.exe which 
is readily available on the internet.  Programmer requires a 
straight-through DB25 male to DB25 female cable. (not included but available 
for $10.00 extra.)
Dimensions:  2.5" x 3.0"

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Thomas Keller" <tjkeller1@alltel.net>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVR-Lite help


>I haven;t the oney to pruchae any hardware with.
>
> kernels_nz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>> Back in the day when I was still using parallel programmers, I found
>> Ponyprog to be the best programming application around.
>>
>> As pointed out by other people, AVRISP + AVRStudio is much much easier
>> to deal with.
>>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

>
> programming software.  The software that we recommend is fbprg16.exe which
> is readily available on the internet.  Programmer requires a


Ah, THAT one.  I used to use that, back when I was doing 8515 and 2343 work.
Six wires off the parallel port.

Google on fbprg16 or ba1fb


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Apart from "giveio" (which you must):

using avrdude, did you find an entry for the programmer in the file 
"avrdude.conf"?

If not, you'll have to add an entry, you may have to reverse engineer (if 
you don't have the info) which parallel pin goes to which AVR pin (MISO, 
MOSI, etc), most likely through an IC (find datasheet, inputs, outputs, 
etc).

I just did this last week, it took a while.

Good luck,

Cat


----Original Message Follows----

From: Thomas Keller <tjkeller1@alltel.net>
Reply-To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR-Lite help
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:10:24 -0600

Well.  I found out that WInAVR with AVRDude is supposed to work with
this board.   I chose to run the AVRDude-GUI version.   When I tell it
to execute, nothing happens.   I have selected a processor type, I have
provided the path to the hex file, and I checked a few options boxes
(such as do a chip erase first, and be verbose).  Nothing happens.   Any
suggestions, filk?

tom




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Cat;

  Yes, the AVR-Lite is supported, I foudn out that AVRDude supported it 
by Googling AV%R-Lite.  It isn;t clear to me how IN inform AVRDude that 
I am using an AVR-Lite, however, I saw nothing in the AVRDude GUI that 
permitted selection of programmer type.

  As for reverse engineering, it is a pure Parallel dongle.  3 sockets 
(8, 20 & 40 pin) 6 resistors, 2 LEDs and one cap.   That and the DB-25F 
connector on the end of the PCB.  Very simple.  Obviously, if can only 
program ASVRs which have the MISO and MSOI * SCLK pins inthe places 
which are hardwired on the PCB, so newer  AVRs than the AVR-Lite may not 
work with it, but that isn't the difficulty here, the ATtiny2313 has the 
same pinout as the AT90S2313, which existed at the time of manufacture 
(or at least, at the time I purchased the thing off of eBay)  And both 
chips are listed in the processor selection pulldown menu, so I am 
reasonably (*grin*) certain it is supported, you know?  *heh*

tom


Cat C wrote:

>
> Apart from "giveio" (which you must):
>
> using avrdude, did you find an entry for the programmer in the file
> "avrdude.conf"?
>
> If not, you'll have to add an entry, you may have to reverse engineer (if
> you don't have the info) which parallel pin goes to which AVR pin (MISO,
> MOSI, etc), most likely through an IC (find datasheet, inputs, outputs,
> etc).
>
> I just did this last week, it took a while.
>
>

Thanks, James.  Looking up fbprog.exe as I type this reponse.   I got my 
AVR-Lite for $6 off of eBay about 2 yeares ago, this is the first time i 
have had occasion to try to use it.

   I am doing a favor for a friend. He has an ATtony2313 project for a 
telescope controller which I am popping the code for, since he has no 
processors or programming hardware at all, and I have a surplus of 2313s 
(4 of them is a surplus, if you don't plan to USE 2313s)

   On an entirely different note, speaking of free samples of AVRs, I 
ran into someone recently who has obtained free samples of USB AVRs, so 
apparently Atmel has altered their sampling policy on those chips.  *YAY*


tom
James Ronald wrote:

>
> Found this using google....
>
> Atmel AVR Lite Programmer Board CAN$39.99 (US$27.99) :
>
> This board is for programming various types of Atmel AVR chips via the
> parallel port on a computer. It supports 8-pin, 20-pin, and 40-pin chips
> such as AT90S2323, 2343, 1200, 2313, 8515. Power is derived from the
> parallel port so an external power source is not required. The only
> connection to the board is the DB-25 parallel interface. The board also
> includes two led's; one to indicate that there is power to the board, and
> another to indicate the presence of data being transmitted from the 
> computer
> to the chip or vice-versa. This programmer supports many different 
> types of
> programming software. The software that we recommend is fbprg16.exe which
> is readily available on the internet. Programmer requires a
> straight-through DB25 male to DB25 female cable. (not included but 
> available
> for $10.00 extra.)
> Dimensions: 2.5" x 3.0"
>
>