Alesis Andromeda A6

Hello folks,

Morten finally convinced me to sign up for this group; I'm a regular 
at Harmony Central's KSS but I've been becoming more and more 
interested in the Ion ever since Summer NAMM 2002, despite the 
naysayers. ;)  Now it seems as if my interest might have been well-
founded after all.

Anyway, Morton keeps us up to date but I keep asking technical 
questions and he says "Come to my yahoo group and ask Ben Ling, he's 
a developer", and I finally had a question so pressing that I 
decided to do just that. :)

So, Ben, Morten says that delay is on your ION wishlist.  The 
musical kind of delay, not the "The Ion has been pushed back to an 
early September release date" kinda delay. ;)  I can personally live 
without reverb, and I know good reverbs are processor intensive, but 
an onboard delay, even global (not per part), is something I would 
really love to have.  Tempo synched (and not), LCR... you know, not 
much, just a simple, functional delay.  Now, it seems to me that for 
delay, you'd have to have access to memory (a megabyte will give you 
just under four seconds of recording time at 24 bits, 44.1kHz, 
stereo) that may or may not be available.  How would you add 
functionality like that via OS update?

I don't want you to give away engineering secrets or anything, but I 
really do wonder how much hope I (or anyone) should have for this 
being added.

Thanks, and hello to everyone again.

Kiru

--- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Kilby" 
<kirumamoru@y...> wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> Morten finally convinced me to sign up for this group; I'm a 
regular 
> at Harmony Central's KSS but I've been becoming more and more 
> interested in the Ion ever since Summer NAMM 2002, despite the 
> naysayers. ;)  Now it seems as if my interest might have been well-
> founded after all.
> 
> Anyway, Morton keeps us up to date but I keep asking technical 
> questions and he says "Come to my yahoo group and ask Ben Ling, 
he's 
> a developer", and I finally had a question so pressing that I 
> decided to do just that. :)
> 
> So, Ben, Morten says that delay is on your ION wishlist.  The 
> musical kind of delay, not the "The Ion has been pushed back to an 
> early September release date" kinda delay. ;)  I can personally 
live 
> without reverb, and I know good reverbs are processor intensive, 
but 
> an onboard delay, even global (not per part), is something I would 
> really love to have.  Tempo synched (and not), LCR... you know, 
not 
> much, just a simple, functional delay.  Now, it seems to me that 
for 
> delay, you'd have to have access to memory (a megabyte will give 
you 
> just under four seconds of recording time at 24 bits, 44.1kHz, 
> stereo) that may or may not be available.  How would you add 
> functionality like that via OS update?
> 
> I don't want you to give away engineering secrets or anything, but 
I 
> really do wonder how much hope I (or anyone) should have for this 
> being added.
> 
> Thanks, and hello to everyone again.
> 
> Kiru

I think maybe Delay is on the wishlist.

Because I got a mail from Ben some months back that he said the migt 
be some short and medium delay that is why I said it maybe is on his 
wishlist.

Morten
and note IOn is out in some stores in US now.

--- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "arp26002000" 
<arp26002000@y...> wrote:
> --- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Kilby" 
> <kirumamoru@y...> wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> > 
> > Morten finally convinced me to sign up for this group; I'm a 
> regular 
> > at Harmony Central's KSS but I've been becoming more and more 
> > interested in the Ion ever since Summer NAMM 2002, despite the 
> > naysayers. ;)  Now it seems as if my interest might have been 
well-
> > founded after all.
> > 
> > Anyway, Morton keeps us up to date but I keep asking technical 
> > questions and he says "Come to my yahoo group and ask Ben Ling, 
> he's 
> > a developer", and I finally had a question so pressing that I 
> > decided to do just that. :)
> > 
> > So, Ben, Morten says that delay is on your ION wishlist.  The 
> > musical kind of delay, not the "The Ion has been pushed back to 
an 
> > early September release date" kinda delay. ;)  I can personally 
> live 
> > without reverb, and I know good reverbs are processor intensive, 
> but 
> > an onboard delay, even global (not per part), is something I 
would 
> > really love to have.  Tempo synched (and not), LCR... you know, 
> not 
> > much, just a simple, functional delay.  Now, it seems to me that 
> for 
> > delay, you'd have to have access to memory (a megabyte will give 
> you 
> > just under four seconds of recording time at 24 bits, 44.1kHz, 
> > stereo) that may or may not be available.  How would you add 
> > functionality like that via OS update?
> > 
> > I don't want you to give away engineering secrets or anything, 
but 
> I 
> > really do wonder how much hope I (or anyone) should have for 
this 

> > being added.
> > 
> > Thanks, and hello to everyone again.
> > 
> > Kiru
> 
> I think maybe Delay is on the wishlist.

Long story short: the Ion doesn't have delay because it doesn't have 
reverb.  Why doesn't it have reverb?  That's a long story, I'll stick 
to delay, here.  :P

The Ion's effects chip is very powerful.  It can do crazy filter-based 
effects like a 40-band vocoder or a 64-stage phaser.  It doesn't have 
very much delay memory, however.  So, no reverbs or long delays.  The 
Ion does have a short slap-back delay effect, but the max time is 
80ms.

We will be adding more effects in future OS updates.  Among these will 
be longer delays.  As you noted, we can't add memory with a software 
update, but we can do get longer times out of what we have with 
compression techniques (think MP3).  It's unlikely the max delay time 
will get over 500ms, but it should still be a very useable 
improvement. 

Ben Ling, Alesis

--- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Kilby" 
<kirumamoru@y...> wrote:

> Hello folks,
> 
> Morten finally convinced me to sign up for this group; I'm a regular 
> at Harmony Central's KSS but I've been becoming more and more 
> interested in the Ion ever since Summer NAMM 2002, despite the 
> naysayers. ;)  Now it seems as if my interest might have been well-
> founded after all.
> 
> Anyway, Morton keeps us up to date but I keep asking technical 
> questions and he says "Come to my yahoo group and ask Ben Ling, he's 
> a developer", and I finally had a question so pressing that I 
> decided to do just that. :)
> 
> So, Ben, Morten says that delay is on your ION wishlist.  The 
> musical kind of delay, not the "The Ion has been pushed back to an 
> early September release date" kinda delay. ;)  I can personally live 
> without reverb, and I know good reverbs are processor intensive, but 
> an onboard delay, even global (not per part), is something I would 
> really love to have.  Tempo synched (and not), LCR... you know, not 
> much, just a simple, functional delay.  Now, it seems to me that for 
> delay, you'd have to have access to memory (a megabyte will give you 
> just under four seconds of recording time at 24 bits, 44.1kHz, 
> stereo) that may or may not be available.  How would you add 
> functionality like that via OS update?
> 
> I don't want you to give away engineering secrets or anything, but I 
> really do wonder how much hope I (or anyone) should have for this 
> being added.
> 
> Thanks, and hello to everyone again.
> 
> Kiru

Guys,

I'm thinking of selling my NordLead 2 to finance the purchase of an Ion.
Will this be a good idea? I had my NL2 for about 6 months, and never got
really into it. I'm mainly a player, not so much of a producer, and hate
the lack of a proper display on the NL....

Grtz,
Jeroen

Personally, I'd sell the NL2 to finance purchase of an NL3, a much more
usable machine <g>

Elby

Quoting Jeroen van Zutphen <zutphen@...>:

> Guys,
> 
> I'm thinking of selling my NordLead 2 to finance the purchase of an
> Ion.
> Will this be a good idea? I had my NL2 for about 6 months, and never
> got
> really into it. I'm mainly a player, not so much of a producer, and
> hate
> the lack of a proper display on the NL....
> 
> Grtz,
> Jeroen
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on 16-07-2003 13:11, Jeroen van Zutphen at zutphen@... wrote:

Funny last name! I am Boele FROM Zutphen :-))

> Guys,
> 
> I'm thinking of selling my NordLead 2 to finance the purchase of an Ion.
> Will this be a good idea? I had my NL2 for about 6 months, and never got
> really into it. I'm mainly a player, not so much of a producer, and hate
> the lack of a proper display on the NL....
> 
> Grtz,
> Jeroen
> 
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The ION is being bundled with a free INEKO effects unit at Musician's 
friend. Is the INEKO a decent box to use for delay effects?
Patrick

--- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "alesis_ben" <anoplura@e...> 
wrote:
> Long story short: the Ion doesn't have delay because it doesn't
have 
> reverb.  Why doesn't it have reverb?  That's a long story, I'll 
stick 
> to delay, here.  :P
> 
> The Ion's effects chip is very powerful.  It can do crazy 
filter-based 
> effects like a 40-band vocoder or a 64-stage phaser.  It doesn't 
have 
> very much delay memory, however.  So, no reverbs or long delays.  
The 
> Ion does have a short slap-back delay effect, but the max time is 
> 80ms.
> 
> We will be adding more effects in future OS updates.  Among these 
will 
> be longer delays.  As you noted, we can't add memory with a
software 
> update, but we can do get longer times out of what we have with 
> compression techniques (think MP3).  It's unlikely the max delay 
time 
> will get over 500ms, but it should still be a very useable 
> improvement. 
> 
> Ben Ling, Alesis
> 
> --- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Kilby" 
> <kirumamoru@y...> wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> > 
> > Morten finally convinced me to sign up for this group; I'm a 
regular 
> > at Harmony Central's KSS but I've been becoming more and more 
> > interested in the Ion ever since Summer NAMM 2002, despite the 
> > naysayers. ;)  Now it seems as if my interest might have been 
well-
> > founded after all.
> > 
> > Anyway, Morton keeps us up to date but I keep asking technical 
> > questions and he says "Come to my yahoo group and ask Ben Ling, 
he's 
> > a developer", and I finally had a question so pressing that I 
> > decided to do just that. :)
> > 
> > So, Ben, Morten says that delay is on your ION wishlist.  The 
> > musical kind of delay, not the "The Ion has been pushed back to
an 
> > early September release date" kinda delay. ;)  I can personally 
live 
> > without reverb, and I know good reverbs are processor intensive, 
but 
> > an onboard delay, even global (not per part), is something I
would 
> > really love to have.  Tempo synched (and not), LCR... you know, 
not 
> > much, just a simple, functional delay.  Now, it seems to me that 
for 
> > delay, you'd have to have access to memory (a megabyte will give 
you 
> > just under four seconds of recording time at 24 bits, 44.1kHz, 
> > stereo) that may or may not be available.  How would you add 
> > functionality like that via OS update?
> > 
> > I don't want you to give away engineering secrets or anything,
but 
I 

> > really do wonder how much hope I (or anyone) should have for this 
> > being added.
> > 
> > Thanks, and hello to everyone again.
> > 
> > Kiru