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Re: [BossVF1] VF-1 Distortion and Amp Sim Configuration: Why did they do it this way?

2006-07-30 by Scott Parker

Hi . 

My VF-1 application has been mainly live which I find
it VERY handy because of its size . It coupled with a
simple MIDI controller such as a Rolls Midi Buddy is a
real quick and easy set up that takes up practically
NO space and sounds GREAT . Typically on stage I will
have a wah pedal in front of me but other than that
its just a couple of controller pedals for the VF1 ...
One for turning the effects on and off , and one for
tap tempo function . If there's room on the floor in
front of me then maybe I'll put the midi controller
there but typically it sits on top of the amp as does
the VF1 . Again its a VERY economical rig . It goes
great with club owners who get tired of their servers
having to walk over and around the guitar player's
gaudy pedal rig ...

I'm sure there are more up to date units that are ALL
on the floor units , as it seems NO companies are
investing in research and development of half rack
space units any more .(A drag if you ask me...) I
guess what difference does it make ? If you're playing

one of those tight spaced club gigs then companies
like Boss are figuring that you would just put the
"all on the floor" unit on top of your amp . Makes
sense to me . 

As far as regulating gain yes it is "volume"  thats
the key paramiter with the VF 1 and other units like
it . There are alot of units out there through the
years as well as differnt types of amps and theres
quite a variety of vocabulary which all means the same
thing . For example gain , volume , volume 1 ,
saturation , pre , pre amp , distortion , and probably
some others that I couldn't think of all mean "GAIN" .
Master ALWAYS means "master volume" - that is - the
over all volume of the patch ...Sorry if this sounds
redundant . 

As far as putting a distortion pedal simulater in
front of the amp simulater I suppose I could see this
as being a legitimate argument for some type of direct
recording situation where you wish to simulate the
sound of a DS1 through the front of a Fender Twin but
really you could tweak a whole bunch of distortion
type patches (as I did) and ultimately come to the
conclusion (as I did) that they all pretty much sound
the same by the time that you eq them right in the
over all mix . For example high gain  bridge pickup
style rhythm guitar tones don't sound that much
different to me once I've got things eq'd the right
way . Maybe other people are different ... I quit
beating my head over it and found that I have that 1
or 2 killer rhythm guitar sounds that I use .( Both
for live and for direct recording). I wind up using
the volume on my guitar to further regulate the gain
if necessary and that ALWAYS does the trick . Now it
just depends on WHICH guitar you are using but youy'll
ALWAYS have a cool vibe one way or another . 

For me again its been more of a live thing so the "not
being able to put a stomp box OD in front of the amp
sim"  hasen't been an issue because I'm thinking that
what ever disortion sound I'm getting from the VF1 is
going IN FRONT OF my actual amp which is usually a
Fender Twin or a Boogie Mark 1 . Sounds great either
way . 

Over all its like having quite an effective pedal rig
in a half rack space unit .

Sorry for such a long message and hope this helps .
Scott . 


--- stratoskier <stratoskier@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I know this group isn't particularly active anymore,
> but maybe a few 
> folks still read this...
> 
> One thing that always seemed really odd to me about
> the way the VF-1 
> is set up is the fact that the distortions and
> overdrives are part 
> of the same module as the amp sims.  That means you
> can't put an 
> overdrive box in front of an amp.  Further, the only
> way to set the 
> overdrive intensity is with the gain function, but
> that's only a 3-
> way toggle (low, medium, and high).
> 
> Why on earth did they design it this way?  The
> predecessor of the 
> VF1, the SE70, had separate overdrives that could be
> turned on 
> before the amp sims.  Plus those overdrives had a
> fully adjustable 
> gain knob (0-100).
> 
> I don't get it: seems like this really limits the
> amount of control 
> we have on the VF-1.  Am I missing something here?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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