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Re: SonicState post / alleged Evolver problem

2003-04-29 by ski_ex5tech

So you're hearing this behavior when the sequencer is NOT running?  
Assuming that your Evolver doesn't have a real problem, I could point 
you to dozens of patches with long envelope release stages that don't 
exhibit this behavior.  Of course, you'd still want to know why it's 
happening in YOUR patch!  ;)

Check these points for starters:

1) Make sure that Env3 is not controlling pitch.  Set the Destination 
for Env3 to OFF.  If it's already OFF, change it to something else, 
then back to OFF again.

2) Go to each one of the four Modulators, and set the Destination to 
OFF (M1 through M4).

3) Set the Destination for each one of the four LFO's to OFF.

4) Set the Destinations for Mod Wheel, Velocity, Pressure, Breath 
Controller, Foot Controller, 

5) Make sure the sequencer isn't running.

6) Just for fun, hit the sequencer "Reset" button.  (That shouldn't 
fix any problem, but it will help ensure that you're playing at the 
correct pitch.)

(Note: With all the above points, you're trying to ensure that 
nothing is modulating pitch.  If any of the various Destination 
settings are already OFF, I'd switch them away from OFF, and then 
back to OFF.)

7) Try using a different MIDI keyboard.  There's an outside chance

8) Connect one, and ONLY one MIDI keyboard directly to the Evolver.

9) Disconnect any and all other devices (MIDI, audio inputs, 
computer, patch bays, etc.) from the Evolver.

Hope this helps.  Again, I want to assure you that this behavior most 
certainly does NOT happen on the two Evolvers I've worked with, and 
I've logged a lot of hours with them!


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "linuxmanvan" <linuxmanvan@y...> 
wrote:
> I really do appreciate all of the info. I saw this post on 
sonicstate
> and it really did not make sense to me. However on some of my 
patches
> i do get a stange low "note" on key release and i have to chop the
> release on the filter and vca short to get rid of it. I am still not
> quite sure why ths is happening. I feel the person that posted this
> incorrect statement was having a similar issue. Ill let you know if 
I
> can figure it out. If you know what I am talking about and how to 
fix
> it so i can have the note decay, please let me know.
> Cheers
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
wrote:
> > No offense to whomever made the claim at SonicState, but that 
just 
> > doesn't sound right.  If the analog oscillators switched back to 
> > their lowest possible frequency immediately upon release of a 
key, 
> > you'd hear it clearly with any patch that had a finite (non zero) 
> > release stage in the envelopes.  You'd also hear it with 
any "keyless 
> > drones" (patches in which both the amp and the filter are open 
> > without hitting a key).  I have a LOT of patches like these, and 
I've 
> > NEVER heard this behavior.  It would render the Evolver next to 
> > useless.
> > 
> > I have a good guess as to what is confusing the person that made 
this 
> > claim, though...
> > 
> > When using the sequencer:
> > 
> > - IF you program one or more "rests" for any of the sixteen steps,
> > 
> > - and IF sequencer track 1 is used to control the pitch of one or 
> > more oscillators, 
> > 
> > - and IF the envelopes have a long enough release segment, 
> > 
> > you can hear the oscillators (ANY and every analog and/or digital 
> > oscillator whose pitch is controlled by track 1) return down to 
> > whatever pitch is programmed in the patch as the "home key", if 
you 
> > will.  This is normal behavior, because the sequencer step in 
track 1 
> > on which you programmed a rest can't tell the oscillator(s) to 
play 
> > at the pitch that you want (the pitch of the previous step in the 
> > sequence).
> > 
> > If you're experiencing this, and it's a problem for you, it's 
quite 
> > easy to work around.  Simply avoid the use of sequencer track 1 
to 
> > control pitch of the oscillators when you have programmed rests 
in 
> > track 1, coupled with long envelope releases.  Use tracks 2, 3, 
> > and/or 4 to do all the pitch work.
> > 
> > Actually, this same phenomenon would apply to ANYTHING you 
sequence 
> > with track 1, be it filter cutoff, pulse width, etc.  At each of 
the 
> > rests you program, whatever is being modulated by track 1 is 
going to 
> > return to its base value.
> > 
> > Make sense?  Hope that helps.  If it does, you can copy this 
message 
> > to the SonicState thread in which you found the erroneous claim, 
and 
> > maybe it will help someone else, too.
> > 
> > On the other hand, if you REALLY are having the oscillators' 
pitch 
> > shift down at the release of every key, and you're SURE you don't 
> > have one of the envelopes controlling pitch, I think it's time to 
> > email Dave Smith and tell him that you have a defective unit.  I 
> > really don't think that this will be the case, though.
> > 
> > Best of luck!
> > 
> > 
> > Ski
> > www.ex5tech.com
> > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "linuxmanvan" 
<linuxmanvan@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I recently saw this on a post, 
> > > For some reason, the analog osc's go down to a lowest defined 
note,
> > > right after you release a key ,
> > > This is what is causing my pain if it is true. Is there a way 
to get
> > > rid of this action?

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