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Re: SonicState post / alleged Evolver problem

2003-04-30 by mr_rock

One other thing - make sure PolyChain (knob 2, main row 2) is set to 
OFF.  This caused me some problems until it was pointed out to me.

Regards,
Gary

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
wrote:
> So you're hearing this behavior when the sequencer is NOT running?  
> Assuming that your Evolver doesn't have a real problem, I could 
point 
> you to dozens of patches with long envelope release stages that 
don't 
> exhibit this behavior.  Of course, you'd still want to know why 
it's 
> happening in YOUR patch!  ;)
> 
> Check these points for starters:
> 
> 1) Make sure that Env3 is not controlling pitch.  Set the 
Destination 
> for Env3 to OFF.  If it's already OFF, change it to something else, 
> then back to OFF again.
> 
> 2) Go to each one of the four Modulators, and set the Destination 
to 
> OFF (M1 through M4).
> 
> 3) Set the Destination for each one of the four LFO's to OFF.
> 
> 4) Set the Destinations for Mod Wheel, Velocity, Pressure, Breath 
> Controller, Foot Controller, 
> 
> 5) Make sure the sequencer isn't running.
> 
> 6) Just for fun, hit the sequencer "Reset" button.  (That shouldn't 
> fix any problem, but it will help ensure that you're playing at the 
> correct pitch.)
> 
> (Note: With all the above points, you're trying to ensure that 
> nothing is modulating pitch.  If any of the various Destination 
> settings are already OFF, I'd switch them away from OFF, and then 
> back to OFF.)
> 
> 7) Try using a different MIDI keyboard.  There's an outside chance
> 
> 8) Connect one, and ONLY one MIDI keyboard directly to the Evolver.
> 
> 9) Disconnect any and all other devices (MIDI, audio inputs, 
> computer, patch bays, etc.) from the Evolver.
> 
> Hope this helps.  Again, I want to assure you that this behavior 
most 
> certainly does NOT happen on the two Evolvers I've worked with, and 
> I've logged a lot of hours with them!
> 
> 
> Ski
> www.ex5tech.com
> EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "linuxmanvan" 
<linuxmanvan@y...> 
> wrote:
> > I really do appreciate all of the info. I saw this post on 
> sonicstate
> > and it really did not make sense to me. However on some of my 
> patches
> > i do get a stange low "note" on key release and i have to chop the
> > release on the filter and vca short to get rid of it. I am still 
not
> > quite sure why ths is happening. I feel the person that posted 
this
> > incorrect statement was having a similar issue. Ill let you know 
if 
> I
> > can figure it out. If you know what I am talking about and how to 
> fix
> > it so i can have the note decay, please let me know.
> > Cheers
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
> wrote:
> > > No offense to whomever made the claim at SonicState, but that 
> just 
> > > doesn't sound right.  If the analog oscillators switched back 
to 
> > > their lowest possible frequency immediately upon release of a 
> key, 
> > > you'd hear it clearly with any patch that had a finite (non 
zero) 
> > > release stage in the envelopes.  You'd also hear it with 
> any "keyless 
> > > drones" (patches in which both the amp and the filter are open 
> > > without hitting a key).  I have a LOT of patches like these, 
and 
> I've 
> > > NEVER heard this behavior.  It would render the Evolver next to 
> > > useless.
> > > 
> > > I have a good guess as to what is confusing the person that 
made 
> this 
> > > claim, though...
> > > 
> > > When using the sequencer:
> > > 
> > > - IF you program one or more "rests" for any of the sixteen 
steps,
> > > 
> > > - and IF sequencer track 1 is used to control the pitch of one 
or 
> > > more oscillators, 
> > > 
> > > - and IF the envelopes have a long enough release segment, 
> > > 
> > > you can hear the oscillators (ANY and every analog and/or 
digital 
> > > oscillator whose pitch is controlled by track 1) return down to 
> > > whatever pitch is programmed in the patch as the "home key", if 
> you 
> > > will.  This is normal behavior, because the sequencer step in 
> track 1 
> > > on which you programmed a rest can't tell the oscillator(s) to 
> play 
> > > at the pitch that you want (the pitch of the previous step in 
the 
> > > sequence).
> > > 
> > > If you're experiencing this, and it's a problem for you, it's 
> quite 
> > > easy to work around.  Simply avoid the use of sequencer track 1 
> to 
> > > control pitch of the oscillators when you have programmed rests 
> in 
> > > track 1, coupled with long envelope releases.  Use tracks 2, 3, 
> > > and/or 4 to do all the pitch work.
> > > 
> > > Actually, this same phenomenon would apply to ANYTHING you 
> sequence 
> > > with track 1, be it filter cutoff, pulse width, etc.  At each 
of 
> the 
> > > rests you program, whatever is being modulated by track 1 is 
> going to 
> > > return to its base value.
> > > 
> > > Make sense?  Hope that helps.  If it does, you can copy this 
> message 
> > > to the SonicState thread in which you found the erroneous 
claim, 
> and 
> > > maybe it will help someone else, too.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, if you REALLY are having the oscillators' 
> pitch 
> > > shift down at the release of every key, and you're SURE you 
don't 
> > > have one of the envelopes controlling pitch, I think it's time 
to 
> > > email Dave Smith and tell him that you have a defective unit.  
I 
> > > really don't think that this will be the case, though.
> > > 
> > > Best of luck!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ski
> > > www.ex5tech.com
> > > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> > > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "linuxmanvan" 
> <linuxmanvan@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I recently saw this on a post, 
> > > > For some reason, the analog osc's go down to a lowest defined 
> note,
> > > > right after you release a key ,
> > > > This is what is causing my pain if it is true. Is there a way 
> to get
> > > > rid of this action?

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