Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

thanks for the detailed reply Afro. I do have a G2 engine (u repled to my 
post on the forum today) and yeah basically its no funto programme, though 
an IBK 10 control is making it a lot funner. In many ways the evolver gives 
more immediate hands on results and I often find that by tweaking about I 
come up with beautiful things that are more or less whole tracks in their 
own right... of course lacking CC# limits the evolver as a performance tool 
too

But I'm struggling with G2, as i am more of a composer than a programmer, I 
do love the G2 as a drum machine (I prefer it the machinedrum sonically)... 
and its nice to have at least one do it all digi synth amidst my analogue 
machines. But maybe I'll come to the same conclusions as you in the long 
run... in the end stuff like the evolver, matrix 1000 and the Andromeda are 
inspiring because they sound alive... in comparison I see the nord more like 
a massive computer with almost infinite possibilties

Richard


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "afro_88" <afro88@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:27 AM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: I think I have a problem...


> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Richard BT" <richardscott@b...>
> wrote:
>> a bit OT and just out of interest Afro, but why isn't the G2 engine
> working
>> out for ya? Sound? complexity? interface?
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>> Richard
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> Oh, it's alright, but it's just too clean, thin and sterile. If I
> wanted super clean "professional" sounds, then I would be very happy.
> But I'm more into the big dirty sounds the Evolver does effortlessly.
> I've tried programming similar sounds for the G2, but it's just so
> much effort to dirty it up, to make it do subtle weird things to the
> sound. And it's not much fun to play around with. Even with a
> Behringer BCR controller it's still like playing a soft synth, but
> with 0 latency. I really like to see what I'm doing, and the Evolver's
> nice because it's all right there in front of you. I'm sure I'd
> probably like the G2 alot more if I had the keyboard version with the
> excellent interface, but that's 2 grand more and I can't afford it...
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> But yeah, every now and then I get a nice sound out of it, or a track
> might require a nice clean pad or some controlled sub bass or
> something and it's really good at those sorts of "typical" sounds.
> It's good as an effect processor too. But it's very uninspiring
> despite being a modular synth. It's got absolutely 0 character. You
> can program that character into it, but it's still got that G2
> undertone. I've played a Lead 2, and also stuffed around with a Nord
> Micro, and this is like the boring, super clean cut, 9-5 office job,
> needs to get out more older brother.
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> There are probably a handful of patches I've made, and a few from the
> mailing list/forum that I really like, and then a ton of patches that
> are frustrated attempts at getting it to sound the way I want it to.
> And then I go to the Evolver and spend 5 minutes programming it and
> get a really crazy sound that I've never heard before.
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> What attracted me was the whole powerful modular thing - like Reaktor
> but more intuitive and a piece of hardware as opposed to software that
> may crash at any moment. What I wasn't counting on was the complete
> lack of any character and warmth.
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> If that's what you're after Richard, then this is the ultimate. It can
> do anything, and everything it does is clean and polished - no matter
> how much you distort and bit crush it, it still sounds "clean"... well
> not quite, but you get the idea ;). It would be good if you have to
> compose some tracks for a TV show or a movie or something and they
> just want something that works and sounds nice. For more experimental
> electronic music, I hate to say it, but this will probably disappoint you.
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> Sorry for the rant, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I'm not trying to
> offend people who are looking for that kind of sound (and if you are,
> why do you own an Evolver? ;)) but just that it doesn't work for me.
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> Richard - if you're really keen on trying out the G2, get the software
> demo from www.clavia.se . The engine is basically that x 4 and
> polyphonic. It sounds very similar to the real engine too, although it
> runs at 44.1k/16-bit instead of the engine's 96k/24-bit.
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> Afro88
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