Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Don, I think you have a great idea.  I think one of the advantages of 
this over a pure contest is that you'd end up with more patches being 
created and submitted.  I know for a fact that there some people 
(some of whom are talented) are a bit intimidated by competition - 
they thing that their sounds aren't good enough, when in fact they 
are!  

Besides, everyone has their own likes and dislikes.  Jeez, Dave threw 
a few of my personal favorite Evolver sounds way back there in Bank 3 
obscurity (don't worry - I'm over it now, and have decided to go on 
with life!) ;)  Yet on the other hand, a few of the "stinkers" I 
programmed (my own judgement) are featured prominently in the 
presets.  Heck, Dave even made some additional edited versions of one 
or two of them!  Anyway, the bottom line is that something one person 
finds horrible *might* be just the thing that someone else has been 
looking for to use in their latest song.

Another idea:  A "patch contest" and a "User Forum Soundset" COULD be 
combined.  You could do it basically as a "User Forum Soundset", yet 
at the end, let the group judge the best patches in the lot.  The 
best patches could be featured at the front of the list.  You could 
have other "prizes", too.


What's everyone else think?  And who would be interested in 
programming some patches to share with everyone?


Assuming that we do put together a collection of sounds, I volunteer 
to collect everyone's files and package the final product, including 
the documentation.  I have a little experience in this area.  We 
currently have a total of 169 patch/sample/other collections for the 
EX5 available at AMPFEA and EX5Tech.  (Many of these are multi-
archive downloads, so the total number of actual downloads is 290.)  
I packaged 78 of those 169.  Of the 78, I actually authored or co-
authored 27.  If desired (or necessary), I'll also be happy to host 
or co-host the final product for downloading.

The only thing I couldn't do would be to make a version of the file 
in Sound Diver format, but someone else could make that conversion if 
necessary.  Of the three file formats mentioned, I think Sound Diver 
is probably the least important, anyway, though I'm sure that some 
would disagree!  :)


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Don Gothard \(dg\)" 
<gothard@s...> wrote:
> As a suggestion I would add that rather than a "patch contest" which
> implies some competition and reward, we do whats been done 
successfully
> several times on the waldorf forum and make a "User Forum Soundset"
> instead.  Basically one person volunteers as the organizer gathers a
> list of  who and how many patches each user is going to contribute 
posts
> this list to the forum, sets a deadline and everyone sends their 
patches
> to this organizer. 
>  
> The organzier than puts the entire set of patches together in a 
soundset
> that usually consists of midi files, sysex files, sounddiver library
> file and even a text file with descriptions and directions. This
> soundset is then posted for everyone to get access to, and they are 
then
> free to choose which method to load it into their synths. This 
method
> has worked quite well and their have already been at least 3 
soundsets
> each for the Q and MWXT. Any thoughts ?
>  
> Don
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ravi Sharma [mailto:noision1@h...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:27 AM
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Evolver] Re: Patch Contest
> 
> 
> 
> So then in regard to naming patchfiles, whether midi or sysex, a 
naming
> structure would be good. I.e., "type.name.location" ie.
> "bass.moog3.b2p45.mid" or "lead.killerz.b1p3.syx"
> 
> or something like that . . .
> 
> suggestions . . .
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Ski " 
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> >Subject: [Evolver] Re: Patch Contest 
> >Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:51:55 -0000 
> > 
> >If by "this problem", you mean the fact that you don't know where 
the 
> >patches are going to load, then yes, SYSEX files have the same 
> >problem. The patch bank(s) and the patch number(s) are both 
encoded 
> >into the saved patch files... so they're always going to load back 
> >into the same slot. So it's not really a MIDI or SYSEX "problem"; 
> >it's just the patch format, coupled with the Evolver's inability 
to 
> >let you specify a "destination location" for single patches that 
you 
> >load. Shouldn't be too hard to write a little librarian, though, 
> >that would let you rearrange the patches within a MIDI or SYSEX 
file. 
> > 
> > 
> >Ski 
> >www.ex5tech.com 
> >EX5Tech Evolver forum: 
> >http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23 
> > 
> > 
> >--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Sharma" 
> >wrote: 
> > > No, I meant only for midifiles, obviously sysex route doesn't 
have 
> >this problem, or does it? I got midiox to work, but I didn't know 
how 
> >I did it . . . :) 
> > 
> 
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