i had problemes too, it went from 1 to a dozen over some time never had problemes with the parameter knobs i did the dexoit thing like 4 months ago and still no problem anymore, works like new. > > > > > Any chance I can get the part numbers on those Alps encoders you used. > I'm thinking about doing the same thing to my PEK. > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "colossalhoagie" > <colossalhoagie@...> wrote: > > > > Sorry this turned into such a long winded response on this matter. > Hopefully it is helpful > > to someone experiencing encoder frustrations. > > > > I too recently had trouble with multiple encoders on a MEK and ended > up laboriously > > replacing every single one with a slightly different type of encoder > (i'll get to that in a > > minute). Here are my +/- two cents. > > > > 1. I hate to say it by I doubt that the issue you are having is some > type of system wide > > problem. I too was hoping for the same thing. It just seemed like > there were *way* too > > many of the encoders that were not working properly. Now that all is > said and done I > > realize that it was just a ton of degraded encoders. I get the > feeling that the encoders > > that come of the MEK could be of much better quality. Internet/forum > searching seems to > > indicate a fair number of difficulties and/or failures. > > > > Probably 10 of mine were "bad" and 10-13 more that were > "occasionally glitchy" and then > > a few more that would on rare occasions jump. To qualify the term > "bad" I'll just say that > > there was no way I would have used my MEK live. It would have been > embarrassing. > > Crazy jumps in value would happen causing very noticeable changes in > audio. I would > > turn knobs up and values would go down...bass vibrations would cause > value jumps. > > > > If you are under warranty you could contact them and they should > offer to do a board > > swap (they did for me). Very, very easy to do. > > > > 2. When trying to diagnose the issues with my MEK and isolate which > encoders were > > junked I am almost certain that I stumbled onto a bug in v. 1.3 of > the MAIN OS for the > > MEK. I don't know if it applies to my particular revisions of PCB or > to all out there. I'm > > actually dying to know if any other MEK users out there are > experiencing the following: > > > > When I would run v. 1.3 of the MAIN OS the "param 1" and "param 2" > knobs were nearly > > impossible to use. When I reverted back to v. 1.2 which I found here > the "param 1" and > > "param 2" encoders were again usable. I swapped out OSs about 10 > times to make sure it > > wasn't just a fluke. Totally repeatable. If you are on 1.3 you might > try reverting to 1.2 see > > if it fixes any of your encoder touchiness. > > > > At one point I had mentioned this bug to DSI support in an > email...I'm not sure if anything > > ever came of it on DSI's end. It was actually the two encoders > mentioned above that > > prompted my requesting a board swap. Once I reverted to 1.2 and > things were slightly > > better I told DSI to just forget about it for now and just deal with > it... > > > > 3. At some point I decided--warranty be damned--that I was going to > replace every > > encoder with brand new, totally different encoders. I was pretty > dissatisfied with the ones > > that shipped with the unit and I was convinced that even with new > boards that I would run > > into the same issue down the road. So I dug around, did some > measuring with calipers, > > read some stuff about encoders and decided to order a fleet of Alps > encoders from mouser > > electronics (if anyone wants the part #s I'm more than happy to dig > them out). > > > > I went with 24 detent/24 pulses per rotation for the majority of > encoders and 12 > > detent/12 pulses per rotation for the param 1 & 2 as well as for the > two misc param knobs > > (for those sensitive adjustments...). > > > > It was a long, tedious job that I wouldn't recommend unless you have > a solid amount of > > soldering/desoldering experience, some patience, and some good > tools, solder, etc... > > > > Now everything works perfectly (better than when it first showed up > at my door IMHO) and > > I really, really, really enjoy playing my MEK now. Oh, and the bug > mentioned above still > > persists. > > > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "J Lesser" <j.doerck@> wrote: > > > > > > Hmm... I guess I'm having a hard time believing its an encoder since > > > it seems to be happening across ALL the knobs... Is there any > > > possibility this is a system-wide issue? > > > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "dankselly" <dannyjive.u5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I contacted DSI tech support and was told it was a bad encoder. I > > > > ... > > > > > > > -- http://xpluszequalszero.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/wravenveerendegebarstehoofden
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Re: [DSI Synths] Re:Strange knob behavior on my MEK
2009-10-19 by X + Z = 0
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