Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

For some reason I'm thinking that something is getting misconstrued. I don't think DSI is trying to force anyone to send in their old boards. I think they are just asking for them. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, if I upgrade my PEK I am not sending in the old encoder boards. I paid for them, therefore they are mine.



----- Original Message ----
From: X + Z = 0 <xpluszequalszero@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 2:19:59 PM
Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: PEK PE Kit / dropped line

the board return sounds weird don't get it, if you pay full price for 
the pe board
to me it only seems a deal, where you only pay for postage + a bit extra 
for the pe board and send the encoderboard(s) backs.
sorry but i'm not going to pay 400 for a pe booard and send the 
encoderboard back (still like the option of having both around), which i 
paid for when buying the synth, it isn't their property anymore since it 
left the factory, it's their fault that the encoders didn't work out as 
hoped, not the costumers!

> I also think that $110 for knobs is a ripoff---look in any electronics 
> catalog ... small plastic pot-knobs are generally under $1 each some 
> cast aluminum ones could be $2- retail. You would think that DSI would 
> get them in wholesale bulk too. I wouldnt be suprised if a fair price 
> was actually half. and to almost demand the old boards back-- like you 
> had only licenced the use of DSI equipment. or that their patents 
> would be pirated? it seems odd, very odd . then again arent most 
> encoders 3-6$ each out of a electronics catalog--- [if you buy one]?
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, James Elliott <johans121@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > No way! $110 for knobs to go along with a $400 kit? I would totally 
> keep the old knobs if they fit. At this point its a question of form 
> over function.. Sure, the new knobs are pretty and all, however I'm 
> sure they don't really add to the pot twisting experience all that 
> much! Also, at one point I messed around with different knobs on my 
> PEK, and personally I don't think that black knobs with a chrome ring 
> along the top would look good anyway. As a matter of fact, I think the 
> flat-black knobs that came with it look the best. If the PEK had a 
> black panel with white legending, like the pro one or prophet 5, I 
> think the chrome chrome rings sitting above it would look great, 
> however chrome against blue and yellow? Not for me.
> >
> > As far as returning the boards. I'm kinda shocked that they just ask 
> for them back without giving a discount on the knobs or the upgrade. 
> They are simply going to use them to fix faulty boards sent in from 
> customers. I understand about the recycling aspect - they will 
> certainly reuse them, and I understand it will cut their costs thereby 
> helping keep them in business. However, there might be a time when you 
> decide that the upgrade isn't for you and maybe you want the old 
> encoders back. Or, as you have already pointed out, you could also 
> recycle the parts if you need to by scavenging encoders off of it 
> yourself. If DSI were to promise, "Hey, if you send your encoder 
> boards in, we'll send you encoders for free in the future in case you 
> need them", then I might send it in - I mean that would be one less 
> piece of junk I'd have to keep up with. However, you could make money 
> off of it on day, and you can always pull encoders yourself given you 
> know how to use
> > a soldering iron. Don't know, that's a tough call.
> >
> > Please share your impressions when you swap the boards out.
> >
> > -Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Paul <forums@...>
> > To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 9:26:31 AM
> > Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: PEK PE Kit / dropped line
> >
> >
> > Hi again. I just got a reply from DSI. I have order my kit but asked 
> them about the knobs (which dont come with the kit). The knobs cost 
> another $109 and they are the same as the P08 knobs.
> >
> > They have also asked if I can send them my old encoder boards, once 
> I have replaced the them. This is a good thing in terms of saving the 
> world but surely there should be an incentive or even a condition of 
> sale "you must return your existing boards". I know the old boards 
> have little value or use but I would have kept them as a source of 
> spare encoders as not all encoders are replaced in the kit. I think it 
> would also be nice for possible future valve, being able to say "also 
> comes with original encoder boards incase you want to swap".
> >
> > Sure, I can still keep them but now I know they can be recycled, I 
> know my conscience will make me return them.
> >
> > So, $110 too much for a set of knobs (on top of the $400 kit)?
> >
> > Paul
> > London
> > www.punkdisco. co.uk
> >
>
> 


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