Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

my point being, I see the midi out from the evo seq as a bonus. you  
see it as a flaw. if your wishes are to be granted, why stop there?  
why not add cc messages? nrpn? etc? again, this isn't anything they  
needed to offer in the first place. the fact that they didn't take it  
as far as you wish is not a flaw.

your request is valid, but I don't see the masses joining the cause on  
this. DSI is known for lovely analog synths, not sequencers. I will  
return to my hole and you return to your soapbox.

as the saying goes, proper tool for the job.

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On Oct 14, 2010, at 6:49 PM, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:

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> Thanks for the useful tips Bug. Big help. Maybe DSI shouldn't have  
> allowed the evolver's sequencer to send out midi notes if it weren't  
> meant to be used as a 'real sequencer' which sequences external  
> equipment. I guess that was something an overzealous programmer  
> included to extend its use, something he/she did without consulting  
> the boss....
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> You can crawl back in your hole now.
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> -Jim
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> From: bug.out <bug.out@...>
> To: "DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com" <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 2:50:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Why no rest on sequencer 2?
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> use a real sequencer maybe? one that was designed for such uses?  
> instead of ranting against a small boutique? that would be my  
> suggestion.
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> On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:43 AM, James Elliott <johans121@...>  
> wrote:
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>> Practical? Hmmmm.... maybe from a lazy programmer's perspective.  
>> They could probably write less than 100 lines of code to disable  
>> sequencer's control of the gates, or anything for that matter, if  
>> midi control is turned on while still allowing the sequencer to  
>> send midi out. Remember, the evolver is probably 90% digital with  
>> the sequencer & midi section being 100% digital. If enough people  
>> complain about broken functionality, missing functionality, or  
>> irregular functionality then it might be worth looking into fixing  
>> and/or changing.
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>> I for one agree with David. I have a PEK and I can't stand that  
>> when I use the sequencer in a patch to control external equipment  
>> then I basically lose that voice in the polyphony rotation. i.e. if  
>> I send midi from the PEK's sequencer out to a midi/cv converter to  
>> control my modular synth, my 4 voice PEK patch turns into a 3 voice  
>> PEK patch. That sucks donkey balls. That should not happen on a  
>> $2000+ synth which is mainly software & digital hardware. That can  
>> easily be fixed/changed. It's not like that change would require a  
>> new circuit.
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>> I call an omission like that shortsightedness. If I worked for DSI  
>> and I heard customers complaining about that (if I hadn't  
>> discovered it myself) then I would push to have that changed. I  
>> call the refusal to change the sequencer's behavior obstinance. I  
>> will not purchase another DSI instrument because of their refusal  
>> to fix/change the laundry list of items that has been compiled from  
>> an active, and enthusiastic, user base and sent to them. People,  
>> myself included, have even said they would pay ($25-$30) for an OS  
>> upgrade to have that crap fixed/changed.... Why would I continue to  
>> do business with a company who refuses to listen to their  
>> customers? I was insanely excited about their new  
>> 'BookChick'/'LinnDrum2' thingy that they were designing, not  
>> anymore. I'm sure that thing will be full of deficiencies that will  
>> never be addressed after the obvious bugs are worked out.
>>
>> Screw 'em
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>> -Jim
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>> From: Rory <rozz3r@...>
>> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 6:24:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Why no rest on sequencer 2?
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>> As far as I can see the reason for this is practical, not a bug.  
>> The Evolver is monophonic. Therefor you can't have two sequencers  
>> controlling the amplifier gate.
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>> - Rory
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>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:53 AM, James Elliott  
>> <johans121@...> wrote:
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>> Sad to say but there are lots of 'bugs'/irregularities with the  
>> evolvers that will never be fixed. There is a whole list of stuff  
>> that has been sent to DSI many times since I've been on this list  
>> (which has been a number of years now). DSI has officially  
>> responded once that the evolver is a finished/complete product, or  
>> something like that - i.e. no updates.
>>
>> Sorry,
>> Jim
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>> From: locatemodule <locatemodule@...>
>> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 7:56:26 PM
>> Subject: [DSI Synths] Why no rest on sequencer 2?
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>> Hi all,
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>> I use my desktop evolver to sequence other gear and it sucks that  
>> sequencer 2 is not capable of producing rests. Is there a reason  
>> this has not been added to an update of the OS? Doesn't seem like  
>> it couldn't be added. Anyone know the reason for this? It would  
>> rule if this could be fixed, as of right now it's pretty limiting  
>> as far as sequencing other outboard gear.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Farrell
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