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Re: [Evolver] new evolver owner

Re: [Evolver] new evolver owner

2004-02-19 by Richard

deknow wrote "i plan to use this in my "gig" setup along with the
windcontroller,
vl70m, and the repeater."

hey man that's MY gig setup! except I have an eventide for looping insteard
of the repeater. I think you'll like it a lot! I think I've seen u on the
windcontroller group actually

Wow - I never even thought of using the evolver to sequence the VL70 - with
the latest OS I'm pretty sure it would be possible, but the evolver seq out
is a bit odd as it outputs different values so a melody will not play the
same to output as it does internally - could be interesting tho!

anyway welcome

Richard

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From: "deknoww" <deknow@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: [Evolver] new evolver owner


> ...just arrived yesterday (and now i'm stuck at work without it).
>
>
> first impressions:
>
> well, i have to admit that i have lousy speakers on my computer, but
> i got a little nervous after ordering the evolver...i listened to all
> the mp3's on the evolver site, and there was something (digital
> artifacts...not quite a "shimmer") that botherd me about many of the
> sounds.  the good news is this must have been some combination of mp3
> compression (which i usually do not find objectionable, although i
> rarely listen to mp3's) and my lousy speakers...this thing sounds
> alive!  i bought a microkorg just over a year ago, and the next day,
> found out about the evolver (which was $100 more expensive).  i love
> the korg and it sounds wonderful...but it doesn't boil, bubbble or
> gurgle like the evolver...the evolver feels "real" (and i know i'm
> preaching to the choir here).
>
> i did find (and was warned by one user) of some nasty digital
> distortion when you have too many modulations going on (i have not
> pinpointed where the problem occurs, but i could hear it when i
> messed around with some of the presets, even though the clip light
> was not blinking...i was told by another user that this happens when
> many modulations are being used at once).  this is a little
> disapointing for a standalone hardware unit (as part of the point of
> such a device is that it is designed not to try to perform beyond
> what it is capable, unlike a computer).  perhaps there is something
> specific going on that can be avoided...any suggestions here would be
> appreciated.
>
> and, uhhh, feedback (in all 3 of it's forms) absolutely rules...i've
> never had a synth with feedback built in (but i have done so with
> patchcords and guitar pedals in patchable units, and the old
> headphone out > external in on a minimoog)...i think this makes the
> synth...it would not have nearly the personality without the feedback.
>
> i plan to use this in my "gig" setup along with the windcontroller,
> vl70m, and the repeater.  a few things that are "missing" from my
> perspective (and perhaps only from my perspective):
>
> 1.  additional cc mod sources (especially those used by the wx5)
> 2.  it would be nice if the sequencer could run another synth, while
> the evolver is being played by the wx (ie, the sequncer could be
> sequencing the vl70m, and the wx playing the evolver)...i don't think
> this is currently possible (although you can almost do this).  i
> don't know of another sequencer (besides dr t's stuff for atari, and
> a few people i know who have written their own sequncing software)
> that allows you to run 4 sequences at differant lenghts...i've always
> done this, but always had to use multiple sequncers.
>
> that's all for now, and if anyone has any suggestions/insights, i'd
> be happy to hear them!  this thing is wonderful!
>
> deknow
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Evolver] new evolver owner

2004-02-19 by Richard

As far as I can see version 1.50 of the evolver OS the sequencer can be
outputed to breath control as a destination. I am not sure that this means
the same as actually outputting cc2 thru the midi outputs, I'll have a go
when i get a chance.. otherwise as a workaround the Vl70 could be set to
receive velocity from the evolver instead of breath...

eitherway - its gotta be interesting, I've never used the VL70 with any
sequencer...

Richard


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From: "deknoww" <deknow@...>
To: "Richard" <richard@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] new evolver owner


> ...i had a funny expereince sequencing 70m.
>
> i was setting up to make some repeater loops (rhythic pulsing ones
> for a gig coming up), and on a whim, i decided to use the microkorg's
> arpeggiator (a very interesting arpeggiator) to control the 70m.
>
> the only synth's i've ever owned that have arpeggiators in them are a
> poly6, sh101.  those are not veolcity sentive keyboards, so i was
> used to arpeggios happening at one velocity for all notes.  i mostly
> play the microkorg from the windcontroller, and the korg has hardly
> any presets that use velocity (so that it sounds big and lound no
> matter how timidly a perspective buyer presses the key on the music
> shop floor), but it is an option...i had never heard it on the
> microkorg.
>
> when i started the arp. into the 70m, i couldn't believe how great it
> sounded, and i soon figured out, that the arpeggiator stores (and
> plays) veleocty with each individual note.  i'm not a keyboard
> player, but with those minikeys, and velocity, i was able to coax
> some really nice stuff out of the 70m that i never would have
> dreamed...and i also learned to use the velocity on the microkorg :)
>
> ...and i think the evolver can sequence breath controll (cc2), but i
> don't know if it can send that data out.
>
> deknow
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <richard@c...> wrote:
> > deknow wrote "i plan to use this in my "gig" setup along with the
> > windcontroller,
> > vl70m, and the repeater."
> >
> > hey man that's MY gig setup! except I have an eventide for looping
> insteard
> > of the repeater. I think you'll like it a lot! I think I've seen u
> on the
> > windcontroller group actually
> >
> > Wow - I never even thought of using the evolver to sequence the
> VL70 - with
> > the latest OS I'm pretty sure it would be possible, but the evolver
> seq out
> > is a bit odd as it outputs different values so a melody will not
> play the
> > same to output as it does internally - could be interesting tho!
> >
> > anyway welcome
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "deknoww" <deknow@n...>
> > To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:40 PM
> > Subject: [Evolver] new evolver owner
> >
> >
> > > ...just arrived yesterday (and now i'm stuck at work without it).
> > >
> > >
> > > first impressions:
> > >
> > > well, i have to admit that i have lousy speakers on my computer,
> but
> > > i got a little nervous after ordering the evolver...i listened to
> all
> > > the mp3's on the evolver site, and there was something (digital
> > > artifacts...not quite a "shimmer") that botherd me about many of
> the
> > > sounds.  the good news is this must have been some combination of
> mp3
> > > compression (which i usually do not find objectionable, although i
> > > rarely listen to mp3's) and my lousy speakers...this thing sounds
> > > alive!  i bought a microkorg just over a year ago, and the next
> day,
> > > found out about the evolver (which was $100 more expensive).  i
> love
> > > the korg and it sounds wonderful...but it doesn't boil, bubbble or
> > > gurgle like the evolver...the evolver feels "real" (and i know i'm
> > > preaching to the choir here).
> > >
> > > i did find (and was warned by one user) of some nasty digital
> > > distortion when you have too many modulations going on (i have not
> > > pinpointed where the problem occurs, but i could hear it when i
> > > messed around with some of the presets, even though the clip light
> > > was not blinking...i was told by another user that this happens
> when
> > > many modulations are being used at once).  this is a little
> > > disapointing for a standalone hardware unit (as part of the point
> of
> > > such a device is that it is designed not to try to perform beyond
> > > what it is capable, unlike a computer).  perhaps there is
> something
> > > specific going on that can be avoided...any suggestions here
> would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > and, uhhh, feedback (in all 3 of it's forms) absolutely
> rules...i've
> > > never had a synth with feedback built in (but i have done so with
> > > patchcords and guitar pedals in patchable units, and the old
> > > headphone out > external in on a minimoog)...i think this makes
> the
> > > synth...it would not have nearly the personality without the
> feedback.
> > >
> > > i plan to use this in my "gig" setup along with the
> windcontroller,
> > > vl70m, and the repeater.  a few things that are "missing" from my
> > > perspective (and perhaps only from my perspective):
> > >
> > > 1.  additional cc mod sources (especially those used by the wx5)
> > > 2.  it would be nice if the sequencer could run another synth,
> while
> > > the evolver is being played by the wx (ie, the sequncer could be
> > > sequencing the vl70m, and the wx playing the evolver)...i don't
> think
> > > this is currently possible (although you can almost do this).  i
> > > don't know of another sequencer (besides dr t's stuff for atari,
> and
> > > a few people i know who have written their own sequncing software)
> > > that allows you to run 4 sequences at differant lenghts...i've
> always
> > > done this, but always had to use multiple sequncers.
> > >
> > > that's all for now, and if anyone has any suggestions/insights,
> i'd
> > > be happy to hear them!  this thing is wonderful!
> > >
> > > deknow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

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